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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 9.45am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Not actually correct. Non citizens can vote in local government elections.


I don’t think that’s true. It is, to a degree, in Wales and Scotland in devolved elections, but not England.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Feb 24 9.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


I don’t think that’s true. It is, to a degree, in Wales and Scotland in devolved elections, but not England.

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You must also be one of the following:

a British citizen
an Irish or EU citizen
a qualifying Commonwealth citizen
a citizen of another country living in Scotland or Wales who has permission to enter or stay in the UK, or who does not need permission

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

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You must also be one of the following:

a British citizen
an Irish or EU citizen
a qualifying Commonwealth citizen
a citizen of another country living in Scotland or Wales who has permission to enter or stay in the UK, or who does not need permission

Amazing how difficult it is to find the correct answer when it means you are wrong

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 9.55am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A large proportion of people we have imported never get anywhere near a job that needed filling.
A lot of them work in fast food are self employed or don't work at all. We never needed any of these people.

Migrants are costing the economy money, not improving it.

Look around you man.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Feb 2024 9.10am)

A large number of people work in fast food or other low paid jobs. Some will be immigrants without high level qualifications who are here for reasons other than work, or are students doing 20 hours a week to help provide living costs.

I am not addressing them. I am talking about those we are bringing here to fill skill shortages. Jobs that won’t get done if we don’t.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Feb 24 10.03am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The usual lies.

Native people do these jobs in most countries all over the world, including first world countries that didn't turn traitor on their own peoples.

If you can't fill a position you aren't paying enough or the reality is that the market means your business isn't viable.

But instead we get lies.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Feb 2024 10.04am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 10.07am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

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You must also be one of the following:

a British citizen
an Irish or EU citizen
a qualifying Commonwealth citizen
a citizen of another country living in Scotland or Wales who has permission to enter or stay in the UK, or who does not need permission

I saw that too.

As I said there are different rules in Wales and Scotland.

Commonwealth citizens who are normally resident in the UK and registered to vote have always been able to vote in local elections.

However, those from the rest of the world, including now the EU, are not. So to make a blanket claim that “non citizens” can vote is incorrect. A few, very specific ones with ties to the UK, can.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 10.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

“Native”:people do take the jobs! Obviously there’s not enough of them who are willing.

No one more than me wants to see an end to the benefit culture. Everybody who is able to work should work, unless they can support themselves. Benefits should only go to those in genuine need.

With many jobs now being done from home via the internet anyone capable of sitting in front of a screen can, and should, contribute to our economy and not be a drain on it.

No excuses. Everyone. Not everyone has employment but everyone has a job. Those who are not employed have the job of finding employment. They should work as hard at that every day as anyone else. Get off your backside and on your bike.

Get that right across our economy as a whole and the need for immigration will start to reduce.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

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You must also be one of the following:

a British citizen
an Irish or EU citizen
a qualifying Commonwealth citizen
a citizen of another country living in Scotland or Wales who has permission to enter or stay in the UK, or who does not need permission

So, non citizens can vote. Good luck

 


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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 28 Feb 24 10.55am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

So, non citizens can vote. Good luck

It's probably quite simple if I understand the process correctly...you need a UK NI number to register to vote. These can be issued to people from abroad who are working/seeking work. They use them and then return home or go somewhere else in the world. There is no requirement for the NI number to be 'returned' or cancelled. Consequently, A.N.Other enters the country (let's assume illegally) and uses the previously issued NI number, using the same name and then has the right to vote.
Happy to listen to reasons why that wouldn't work.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Feb 24 11.15am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A large number of people work in fast food or other low paid jobs. Some will be immigrants without high level qualifications who are here for reasons other than work, or are students doing 20 hours a week to help provide living costs.

I am not addressing them. I am talking about those we are bringing here to fill skill shortages. Jobs that won’t get done if we don’t.

Because they completely destroy your argument perhaps?

No one argues that selective small scale immigration is a problem.
That is not what is happening.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Feb 24 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Watching PMQs. Our Parliament is a disgrace.
It is now become a who is the least racist contest.

That is what decades of mass immigration has done to our democracy.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Feb 24 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I saw that too.

As I said there are different rules in Wales and Scotland.

Commonwealth citizens who are normally resident in the UK and registered to vote have always been able to vote in local elections.

However, those from the rest of the world, including now the EU, are not. So to make a blanket claim that “non citizens” can vote is incorrect. A few, very specific ones with ties to the UK, can.

You will not admit that you are factually wrong.

A few?

There are approximately 1m Irish, 5m EU citizens and god knows how many Commonwealth who can vote so your statement that you have to be a citizen to vote is not true.

You should apply to Palace I hear they are looking for someone to move the goalposts.

Edited by Badger11 (28 Feb 2024 1.04pm)

 


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