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BrentisBack Flag Beckenham 01 Dec 23 5.20am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

A right wing Austrian? Hasn't that been tried before? De Niro is 80 so he's got that in his favour.

Arnie is anything but right wing. He’s extremely sensible and full of empathy and genuine care for America and it’s people.

 

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Originally posted by BrentisBack

Arnie is anything but right wing. He’s extremely sensible and full of empathy and genuine care for America and it’s people.

Can't wait for the meltdown on here when Trump wins.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Dec 23 9.07am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Can't wait for the meltdown on here when Trump wins.

You will be waiting a long time.

Probably until 2064 when Bannon Trump, having renounced everything his father stood for and joined the Democrats, is elected on a wave of sympathy for his childhood suffering.

You heard it here first.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 May 24 11.10am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

regarding 'the far right'


Traditionally they have always been virulently Anti-Semitic. Hitler, Mussolini, the KKK, General Franco etc.


And yet today : characters identified in the media as 'far right', Donald Trump & Tommy Robinson, are strongly Pro-Israel and get much support at home from the Jewish vote. Ditto some of the Ulster Unionists. Probably something similar in France, Germany but i didnt bother to search it.

And then there are the rumours that 'our boys in Ukraine' are actually virulently Nazi in their allegiances. Anti Russia and all that. Certainly the media portrayal of Zelensky as the good guy seems a little simplistic.

If the Left has a tacit agreement with Islam, then the Right seems to be doing something similar with the other side of the Middle East conflict.

any observations ?


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Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 26 May 24 11.45am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


And then there are the rumours that 'our boys in Ukraine' are actually virulently Nazi in their allegiances. Anti Russia and all that. Certainly the media portrayal of Zelensky as the good guy seems a little simplistic.

LOL. They are not rumours. The Azov brigrade for example are full on neo-Nazi's. If you want a fascinating deep-dive into how this modern world works then look at the reporting arc on them. How history is literally re-written to try and ignore the reality of this.

As to how we define 'Far-Right' then I think the issue really boils down to effectively looking at the concept of Ethno-Nationalism.

Does a person define themselves based on their ethnic heritage and promote the politics that makes that the core-issue around which everything else is framed? For me that is how the 'Far-Right' could be defined.

So for example I would argue that any kind of Zionism is 'Far-Right' as would say the beliefs of say Hitler (oddly enough not so much Mussolini- Fascism is far more nuanced on this issue).

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View XKudu's Profile XKudu Flag The Midlands, England 26 May 24 12.27pm Send a Private Message to XKudu Add XKudu as a friend

Why does the Left try to smear anyone with Right leaning views with the label “far Right”. It’s laughable and has some similarities to when New Labour came to power in 1997 with what were basically middle of the road Conservative party policies. They however had then created a cuckoo bird problem for themselves by sitting on stolen ground and had to elbow middle of the road Tories out of our way by labelling them Right Wing, Far Right or even Extreme Right. That still exists to this day.

The reality is, most Tories I know are reasonable middle of the road people and always have been.

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 26 May 24 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by XKudu

Why does the Left try to smear anyone with Right leaning views with the label “far Right”. It’s laughable and has some similarities to when New Labour came to power in 1997 with what were basically middle of the road Conservative party policies. They however had then created a cuckoo bird problem for themselves by sitting on stolen ground and had to elbow middle of the road Tories out of our way by labelling them Right Wing, Far Right or even Extreme Right. That still exists to this day.

The reality is, most Tories I know are reasonable middle of the road people and always have been.

Edited by XKudu (26 May 2024 12.31pm)

I keep it real by calling Labour voters the Loony Left. Not to their faces obviously because they might try to hit me with a placard.

 




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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 May 24 12.38pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

As to how we define 'Far-Right' then I think the issue really boils down to effectively looking at the concept of Ethno-Nationalism.

Does a person define themselves based on their ethnic heritage and promote the politics that makes that the core-issue around which everything else is framed? For me that is how the 'Far-Right' could be defined.

So for example I would argue that any kind of Zionism is 'Far-Right' as would say the beliefs of say Hitler (oddly enough not so much Mussolini- Fascism is far more nuanced on this issue).

Sociologists use the term 'in group bias' ....in other words they keep to their own. Often marry their own (especially a proscription on their straight-women having external dalliances ) , do business with their own, only socialise with their own, etc.

including

- jewish groups
- many Muslims

- irish Travellers
- other Gypsy nationalities
- American Amish
- LGBTQ

- Drill Rappers ?
- other ( do please tell us )


Far Right ? that seems to be 'whites with a strong in group bias'. And other groups, like those above ? not far right, seemingly. That's just their 'culture'.


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Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 26 May 24 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Far Right ? that seems to be 'whites with a strong in group bias'. And other groups, like those above ? not far right, seemingly. That's just their 'culture'.



It is what it is at the moment. Key to breaking free is stop being worried about what your opposition label you as.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that before we can rebuild Western Civilisation then it needs to collapse some more. The current model is effectively geared up on a multiple of levels to create division. Also take it as a compliment that they still do any and everything to oppose any kind of white collective effort. Means they are still scared of us.

When Lefties bang on about European Imperialism and so on, what they fail to mention is how few Europeans it took to literally conquer entire continents. And then build, from scratch civilisations that are the envy of the world in less than 300 years. Look at places like Australia. Most of it a literal desert. Full of s*** that wants to kill/eat you. Before Europeans turn up the only inhabitants literally still living in the Stone Ages. Ditto with North Ameria and South Africa. And then go on to build cities, railways, ship building industry and so on.

Europeans are the dogs bollocks when it comes to creating. Nobody comes near to touching us in those stakes. All they want to do is come and live amongst us.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 26 May 24 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Just from my own casual observations in the media, the far right today seems much more diluted (even moderate), compared to its ancestors.
Gone are the smart uniforms and ground-breaking hardware, elevated into power by the public vote. Now seemingly marginalised (along with the looney left) to a paragraph or two in mainstream news.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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The term " far right " has become a misused pejorative like
" banker ".

It's a label designed to shut down debate.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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