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Uphill Bedford 29 Sep 23 6.37pm
I am beginning to believe that Dougie Freedman has a totally misplaced belief in our Medical department. Not to worry if new arrivals are injury-prone, our team will soon sort it out. Conor Wickham, Nathan Ferguson and now Dean Henderson - it defies logic. If a keeper making his debut is crocked just by kicking the ball after 18 minutes and we have paid £15 million for him it defies common sense - especially when our crying need is for a striker and a ball holding midfield 'general' The Manager has said (and we all know) our squad is light so why have we bought a totally unnecessary keeper? Answers on the back of a fag packet please.
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Uphill

Bedford 29 Sep 23 6.37pm

I am beginning to believe that Dougie Freedman has a totally misplaced belief in our Medical department. Not to worry if new arrivals are injury-prone, our team will soon sort it out.

Conor Wickham, Nathan Ferguson and now Dean Henderson - it defies logic.

If a keeper making his debut is crocked just by kicking the ball after 18 minutes and we have paid £15 million for him it defies common sense - especially when our crying need is for a striker and a ball holding midfield 'general'

The Manager has said (and we all know) our squad is light so why have we bought a totally unnecessary keeper?

Answers on the back of a fag packet please.

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Putitout Oxford 29 Sep 23 7.03pm
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace Fair to say I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Henderson signing when I felt as though we needed the money spent elsewhere. However, calling him and Franca 'turkeys', 'crocks' and 'not fit for purpose ' is insanely harsh given that the season has barely started. Maybe give them some time before we start slagging them off? It’s not the players I m slagging off . I sincerely hope that neither of these lads have got long term problems, purely on terms of their personal welfare. From the clubs point of view if these boys did have long term problems that would only compound any wasted money consideration.. My comment is on the basis ,that Palace have limited resources, allied to immediate need. We don’t know exactly what it cost to get these two ,but we are led to believe it is around £45 precious million. .The squad is pathetically thin, we needed people to hit the ground running, in which respect the two are not fit for purpose, as Lerma was, if only because once here and playing injuries will occur, as Lerma, presently proves. Henderson’s injury record was well publicised, Francas not so, yet in all the lengthy negotiations to get him here no one noticed he was carrying what appears to be a quite serious problem. As said for players and club here’s hoping for a good outcome, but with the clubs record on bringing in sick notes it’s perfectly right for Belfast ,and myself to bring this up, Edited by Putitout (29 Sep 2023 7.17pm)
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Putitout

Oxford 29 Sep 23 7.03pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Fair to say I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Henderson signing when I felt as though we needed the money spent elsewhere.

However, calling him and Franca 'turkeys', 'crocks' and 'not fit for purpose ' is insanely harsh given that the season has barely started.

Maybe give them some time before we start slagging them off?

It’s not the players I m slagging off . I sincerely hope that neither of these lads have got long term problems, purely on terms of their personal welfare.
From the clubs point of view if these boys did have long term problems that would only compound any wasted money consideration.. My comment is on the basis ,that Palace have limited resources, allied to immediate need. We don’t know exactly what it cost to get these two ,but we are led to believe it is around £45 precious million. .The squad is pathetically thin, we needed people to hit the ground running, in which respect the two are not fit for purpose, as Lerma was, if only because once here and playing injuries will occur, as Lerma, presently proves.
Henderson’s injury record was well publicised, Francas not so, yet in all the lengthy negotiations to get him here no one noticed he was carrying what appears to be a quite serious problem. As said for players and club here’s hoping for a good outcome,
but with the clubs record on bringing in sick notes it’s perfectly right for Belfast ,and myself to bring this up,

Edited by Putitout (29 Sep 2023 7.17pm)

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Eaglecoops CR3 29 Sep 23 7.19pm
Originally posted by Putitout It’s not the players I m slagging off . I sincerely hope that neither of these lads have got long term problems, purely on terms of their personal welfare. From the clubs point of view if these boys did have long term problems that would only compound any wasted money consideration.. My comment is on the basis ,that Palace have limited resources, allied to immediate need. We don’t know exactly what it cost to get these two ,but we are led to believe it is around £45 precious million. .The squad is pathetically thin, we needed people to hit the ground running,as Lerma has, if only because once here and playing injuries will occur, as Lerma, presently proves. Henderson’s injury record was well publicised, Francas not so, yet in all the lengthy negotiations to get him here no one noticed he was carrying what appears to be a quite serious problem. As said for players and club here’s hoping for a good outcome, but with the clubs record on bringing in sick notes it’s perfectly right for Belfast ,and myself to bring this up, This is the absolute crux of it. We should not have been even considering players who are not both: 1) Required due to a gaping hole in the squad. 2) Available for first team action immediately. Instead we have bought two injured players and an average Arsenal reject who is likely to be our 4th best CH.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 29 Sep 23 7.19pm

Originally posted by Putitout

It’s not the players I m slagging off . I sincerely hope that neither of these lads have got long term problems, purely on terms of their personal welfare.
From the clubs point of view if these boys did have long term problems that would only compound any wasted money consideration.. My comment is on the basis ,that Palace have limited resources, allied to immediate need. We don’t know exactly what it cost to get these two ,but we are led to believe it is around £45 precious million. .The squad is pathetically thin, we needed people to hit the ground running,as Lerma has, if only because once here and playing injuries will occur, as Lerma, presently proves.
Henderson’s injury record was well publicised, Francas not so, yet in all the lengthy negotiations to get him here no one noticed he was carrying what appears to be a quite serious problem. As said for players and club here’s hoping for a good outcome,
but with the clubs record on bringing in sick notes it’s perfectly right for Belfast ,and myself to bring this up,

This is the absolute crux of it. We should not have been even considering players who are not both:

1) Required due to a gaping hole in the squad.
2) Available for first team action immediately.

Instead we have bought two injured players and an average Arsenal reject who is likely to be our 4th best CH.

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Hannes Vienna 29 Sep 23 9.05pm
Originally posted by Uphill I am beginning to believe that Dougie Freedman has a totally misplaced belief in our Medical department. Not to worry if new arrivals are injury-prone, our team will soon sort it out. Conor Wickham, Nathan Ferguson and now Dean Henderson - it defies logic. If a keeper making his debut is crocked just by kicking the ball after 18 minutes and we have paid £15 million for him it defies common sense - especially when our crying need is for a striker and a ball holding midfield 'general' The Manager has said (and we all know) our squad is light so why have we bought a totally unnecessary keeper? Answers on the back of a fag packet please. Translation of warning: Smoking increases the risk of blindness Attachment: IMG_0988.jpg (966.87Kb)
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Hannes

Vienna 29 Sep 23 9.05pm

Originally posted by Uphill

I am beginning to believe that Dougie Freedman has a totally misplaced belief in our Medical department. Not to worry if new arrivals are injury-prone, our team will soon sort it out.

Conor Wickham, Nathan Ferguson and now Dean Henderson - it defies logic.

The Manager has said (and we all know) our squad is light so why have we bought a totally unnecessary keeper?

Answers on the back of a fag packet please.

Translation of warning: Smoking increases the risk of blindness

Attachment: IMG_0988.jpg (966.87Kb)

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dreamwaverider London 29 Sep 23 10.23pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 In red, you know this because? You have proof? In Blue, he was injured, Chelsea knew it, did they even put a bid in for him? New 4 year deal, gives Palace wriggle room to flog him later next year, IF he stays fit. How many injuries has he had now with us playing for the French U21's? Read it again eagle. Those are my hopes.
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Originally posted by eagleman13

In red, you know this because? You have proof?

In Blue, he was injured, Chelsea knew it, did they even put a bid in for him? New 4 year deal, gives Palace wriggle room to flog him later next year, IF he stays fit. How many injuries has he had now with us playing for the French U21's?

Read it again eagle. Those are my hopes.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 30 Sep 23 1.51am
Originally posted by Putitout It’s not the players I m slagging off . I sincerely hope that neither of these lads have got long term problems, purely on terms of their personal welfare. From the clubs point of view if these boys did have long term problems that would only compound any wasted money consideration.. My comment is on the basis ,that Palace have limited resources, allied to immediate need. We don’t know exactly what it cost to get these two ,but we are led to believe it is around £45 precious million. .The squad is pathetically thin, we needed people to hit the ground running, in which respect the two are not fit for purpose, as Lerma was, if only because once here and playing injuries will occur, as Lerma, presently proves. Henderson’s injury record was well publicised, Francas not so, yet in all the lengthy negotiations to get him here no one noticed he was carrying what appears to be a quite serious problem. As said for players and club here’s hoping for a good outcome, but with the clubs record on bringing in sick notes it’s perfectly right for Belfast ,and myself to bring this up, Edited by Putitout (29 Sep 2023 7.17pm) I agree, our record on buying players with known injury history is woeful when you consider our resources. One wonders if our medical guys have relatives who are connected to agents [Link] Edited by HKOwen (30 Sep 2023 1.53am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 30 Sep 23 1.51am

Originally posted by Putitout

Edited by Putitout (29 Sep 2023 7.17pm)

I agree, our record on buying players with known injury history is woeful when you consider our resources.

One wonders if our medical guys have relatives who are connected to agents

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Edited by HKOwen (30 Sep 2023 1.53am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 30 Sep 23 3.08am
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace Fair to say I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Henderson signing when I felt as though we needed the money spent elsewhere. However, calling him and Franca 'turkeys', 'crocks' and 'not fit for purpose ' is insanely harsh given that the season has barely started. Maybe give them some time before we start slagging them off? yeah, we'll give them a look in 6 months This was once a quality forum....
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vancouver/croydon 30 Sep 23 3.08am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Fair to say I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Henderson signing when I felt as though we needed the money spent elsewhere.

However, calling him and Franca 'turkeys', 'crocks' and 'not fit for purpose ' is insanely harsh given that the season has barely started.

Maybe give them some time before we start slagging them off?

yeah, we'll give them a look in 6 months

This was once a quality forum....

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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 30 Sep 23 8.41am
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham To be fair ... you couldn't say they were good purchases either. We're 6 games into the season? Olise also out long term injured, Eze was out for a year after doing his ACL. It happens. Let's just give them a chance, if they end up like Ferguson I'll happily agree with you. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

To be fair ... you couldn't say they were good purchases either.

We're 6 games into the season? Olise also out long term injured, Eze was out for a year after doing his ACL. It happens.

Let's just give them a chance, if they end up like Ferguson I'll happily agree with you.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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Ouzo Dan 30 Sep 23 9.45am
Henderson isnt £20m better than Johnstone. To throw away that kind of money when the squad is crying out for reinforcements pretty much in every position is insane. We do have a track record of shooting ourselves in the foot with injured players and chancing having one player in a position. See Parish (Paraphrase slightly) the sun not coming up then a week later Benteke gimping himself. Palace are so self destructive at times. Sex Panther 60% of the time it works every time
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Ouzo Dan 30 Sep 23 9.45am

Henderson isnt £20m better than Johnstone.
To throw away that kind of money when the squad is crying out for reinforcements pretty much in every position is insane.

We do have a track record of shooting ourselves in the foot with injured players and chancing having one player in a position.

See Parish (Paraphrase slightly) the sun not coming up then a week later Benteke gimping himself.

Palace are so self destructive at times.

Sex Panther 60% of the time it works every time

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BelfastEagle 30 Sep 23 9.54am
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace Fair to say I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Henderson signing when I felt as though we needed the money spent elsewhere. However, calling him and Franca 'turkeys', 'crocks' and 'not fit for purpose ' is insanely harsh given that the season has barely started. Maybe give them some time before we start slagging them off? I’m not criticising the signing of Franca based on his injury history.But signing a player that comes pre injured with our budget and small squad seems a luxury we cannot afford. However signing somebody who was injured for 4 months at the end of last season and then within 20 mins of his very first game is injured again…. calling them a crock/turkey seems very realistic……or maybe sicknote is more apt ? There is clearly something wrong with him physically…however.giving him some more extended time on the treatment table is the only option.
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30 Sep 23 9.54am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Fair to say I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Henderson signing when I felt as though we needed the money spent elsewhere.

However, calling him and Franca 'turkeys', 'crocks' and 'not fit for purpose ' is insanely harsh given that the season has barely started.

Maybe give them some time before we start slagging them off?

I’m not criticising the signing of Franca based on his injury history.But signing a player that comes pre injured with our budget and small squad seems a luxury we cannot afford.

However signing somebody who was injured for 4 months at the end of last season and then within 20 mins of his very first game is injured again…. calling them a crock/turkey seems very realistic……or maybe sicknote is more apt ? There is clearly something wrong with him physically…however.giving him some more extended time on the treatment table is the only option.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Sep 23 1.48pm
Am I the only one who doesn't particularly care how Henderson feels? I just care about the club and didn't think it was a worthwhile signing. I found it particularly galling that his replacement at Utd was 4-5 mil and a Turkish international. Also that de Gea was available on a free and looking for a club. We could have even treated Guaita better and talked him round into staying for one season. To sum up: our transfer business was f*ing s*. It was like going to the shop when you wanted to make lasagne and buying an orange, some peanut butter and a pair of flip flops. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Sep 23 1.48pm

Am I the only one who doesn't particularly care how Henderson feels? I just care about the club and didn't think it was a worthwhile signing. I found it particularly galling that his replacement at Utd was 4-5 mil and a Turkish international. Also that de Gea was available on a free and looking for a club. We could have even treated Guaita better and talked him round into staying for one season.
To sum up: our transfer business was f***ing s***.
It was like going to the shop when you wanted to make lasagne and buying an orange, some peanut butter and a pair of flip flops.

Red and Blue Army!

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Wilbraham413 30 Sep 23 8.31pm
I'm still holding out hope that Franca isn't Ferguson 2.0. Henderson is clearly a crock though. Baffling signing, and completely not surprising that he blew out his leg again. We'll be out of all cup competitions by the time he's fit again, if he's even able to return this season. No idea what our players do for stretching and fitness, but whatever it is, they should immediately stop and do something else. 2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro 2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley 2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth 2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle
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30 Sep 23 8.31pm

I'm still holding out hope that Franca isn't Ferguson 2.0.

Henderson is clearly a crock though. Baffling signing, and completely not surprising that he blew out his leg again. We'll be out of all cup competitions by the time he's fit again, if he's even able to return this season.

No idea what our players do for stretching and fitness, but whatever it is, they should immediately stop and do something else.

2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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