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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 08 Mar 23 9.45am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It wasn't recent. No bakery should ever be forced to put anything on its cakes. The key word being "its". If the bakery makes a cake for someone else, having offered its services for reward, then the cake it makes isn't theirs. They have a free choice. Don't offer services to others and just sell their own offerings, or accept whatever their customers want. Unfortunately that common sense principle was not accepted by the Courts.

You can silently pray with no danger of arrest. What you cannot do is break the law in areas where restrictions have been put in place. Whenever there is a conflict of rights, one has to trump another. Same with books. You can heat your home with books you have scuffed in privacy. What you cannot do is take actions in public which are unlawful.

The law applies to us all, as those who believe they can choose anarchy at will tend to find out.

Edited by becky (08 Mar 2023 9.33am)

The gay cake case was mentioned recently – wade through your chronicles of wasted time and you will see.

The bakery was charged with discrimination against Gareth Lee because he was a homosexual.The Supreme Court found that there was no discrimination against Lee and that the objections of the owners of the bakery were with the message they were being asked to promote. The court held that people in the United Kingdom could not legally be forced to promote a message they fundamentally disagreed with. Fortunately, that common sense principle was upheld.

The lady in question was not banned from being in the area she was standing silently in. She was prohibited from protesting. She said she was ‘perhaps praying’ without indicating (if she was actually silently praying) what she was praying about. Stalin would be proud of such police action for a possible thought crime.

What law did the child break in scuffing the book?

The law applies to us all but, these days, it applies more to some than to others.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Mar 23 10.07am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Yes I know. GB News wanted to distance themselves from what he said and make him liable for any costs that were levied. Which weren't.

The BBC exercise much greater editorial control over content broadcasted in its name. They even take action when presenters comment privately. As is happening today.

A slap on the wrist, again, is hardly taking action against a serial offender of their alleged impartiality rules

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Mar 23 10.10am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The gay cake case was mentioned recently – wade through your chronicles of wasted time and you will see.

The bakery was charged with discrimination against Gareth Lee because he was a homosexual.The Supreme Court found that there was no discrimination against Lee and that the objections of the owners of the bakery were with the message they were being asked to promote. The court held that people in the United Kingdom could not legally be forced to promote a message they fundamentally disagreed with. Fortunately, that common sense principle was upheld.

The lady in question was not banned from being in the area she was standing silently in. She was prohibited from protesting. She said she was ‘perhaps praying’ without indicating (if she was actually silently praying) what she was praying about. Stalin would be proud of such police action for a possible thought crime.

What law did the child break in scuffing the book?

The law applies to us all but, these days, it applies more to some than to others.

The child who took the book to school did not damage it, in fact he had no contact with the book after handing it to his friends. This makes the treatment of him and the death threats even more unpalatable

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Mar 23 10.26am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I do not spend any of my time watching BBC or Sky News, focussing my attentions on GB News on a regular basis.
I am delighted to hear that Lee Anderson is to host a show on this news channel.
Farage, Rees-Mogg, Wootton, Anderson - It gets better and better !

Edited by Willo (08 Mar 2023 10.29am)

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 08 Mar 23 10.39am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

I haven't been back over all the recent posts on this thread, but I get the drift.

When Andrew Neil first launched GB News it was a disaster with poor sound, poor lighting.....poor everything really. But now it's settled in it has found a niche and very welcome it is too. Not all the content is good, but on the whole it presents a refreshing view on current affairs and I welcome it.

There seems to be very little impartiality on all the so called 'traditional' news channels; the alternative view expressed on GB and Talk has to be a good thing whether or not you agree with the content.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 23 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The gay cake case was mentioned recently – wade through your chronicles of wasted time and you will see.

The bakery was charged with discrimination against Gareth Lee because he was a homosexual.The Supreme Court found that there was no discrimination against Lee and that the objections of the owners of the bakery were with the message they were being asked to promote. The court held that people in the United Kingdom could not legally be forced to promote a message they fundamentally disagreed with. Fortunately, that common sense principle was upheld.

The lady in question was not banned from being in the area she was standing silently in. She was prohibited from protesting. She said she was ‘perhaps praying’ without indicating (if she was actually silently praying) what she was praying about. Stalin would be proud of such police action for a possible thought crime.

What law did the child break in scuffing the book?

The law applies to us all but, these days, it applies more to some than to others.

I don't recall the cake case being mentioned for a while. Recently for me is the last few days, not the last few years, but hey ho, whatever!

I know what the judgement was and, whilst I accept it, I profoundly disagree with it. It seems to have succeeded on a point of law, rather than on that which is justifiable. I hope, and expect that at some time a government will pass new legislation clarifying the issue and making sure it doesn't reoccur.

The lady had previous. She was inviting arrest, was warned to stop or move away. Her actions were deemed to constitute a protest within the meaning of the prohibition order. If others were feeling intimidated then their rights were impinged. Maybe you don't care about them, but I do. They couldn't find another clinic in the surrounding area, but the lady could easily find somewhere else to pray, or protest. Therefore, her rights were less impacted than the others.

I have no idea which child you mean.

No-one commits thought crime. They commit offences when protesting in designated areas.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 23 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I do not spend any of my time watching BBC or Sky News, focussing my attentions on GB News on a regular basis.
I am delighted to hear that Lee Anderson is to host a show on this news channel.
Farage, Rees-Mogg, Wootton, Anderson - It gets better and better !

Edited by Willo (08 Mar 2023 10.29am)

Makes perfect sense.

You are a perfect fit for the minority who want to watch this. Anyone who chooses to watch Rees-Mogg immediately qualifies for the old duffers club in my view. He was old-fashioned when my mother was a girl.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 23 4.08pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

A slap on the wrist, again, is hardly taking action against a serial offender of their alleged impartiality rules

If he does it in his own time, and not on a BBC platform, I suspect they would run into legal jeopardy if they went any further.

We'll see as he has said he won't stop.

Many here would argue he has a perfect right to express himself that way. Or maybe not, because it isn't what they want to hear.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Mar 23 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

As Lee Anderson asserted "GB News is the true voice of the Great British silent majority....."
I look forward to watching his shows.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Mar 23 5.07pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If he does it in his own time, and not on a BBC platform, I suspect they would run into legal jeopardy if they went any further.

We'll see as he has said he won't stop.

Many here would argue he has a perfect right to express himself that way. Or maybe not, because it isn't what they want to hear.

Not sure about that. I worked for a large corporation as a paid employee and a contractor it was in our contract that reputational damage would lead to dismissal e.g. get in a fight in a pub off duty or appear in the media without prior approval etc.

GL may not be a full time BBC employee but he is contracted to them and must adhere to their internal rules if his contract doesn't say that then shame on the BBC for basic failings in HR.

 


One more point

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View Far away fan's Profile Far away fan Flag On the border of jungle 08 Mar 23 5.08pm Send a Private Message to Far away fan Add Far away fan as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I do not spend any of my time watching BBC or Sky News, focussing my attentions on GB News on a regular basis.
I am delighted to hear that Lee Anderson is to host a show on this news channel.
Farage, Rees-Mogg, Wootton, Anderson - It gets better and better !

Edited by Willo (08 Mar 2023 10.29am)

As I live in SE Asia, I enjoy GB news and Talk TV

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 08 Mar 23 5.14pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't recall the cake case being mentioned for a while. Recently for me is the last few days, not the last few years, but hey ho, whatever!

I know what the judgement was and, whilst I accept it, I profoundly disagree with it. It seems to have succeeded on a point of law, rather than on that which is justifiable. I hope, and expect that at some time a government will pass new legislation clarifying the issue and making sure it doesn't reoccur.

The lady had previous. She was inviting arrest, was warned to stop or move away. Her actions were deemed to constitute a protest within the meaning of the prohibition order. If others were feeling intimidated then their rights were impinged. Maybe you don't care about them, but I do. They couldn't find another clinic in the surrounding area, but the lady could easily find somewhere else to pray, or protest. Therefore, her rights were less impacted than the others.

I have no idea which child you mean.

No-one commits thought crime. They commit offences when protesting in designated areas.

I know if must be difficult to remember one comment amongst the mountain of your parrot droppings.

Very magnanimous of you to accept a Supreme Court ruling. It didn’t succeed on a point of law, the accused were simply not guilty of the offences they were charged with.

Standing silently in a public street in which she was allowed to be in is deemed to be sufficient reason to arrest her – at least Stalin used to use trumped-up charges.

Of course you know which child I mean, the one involved in the scuffed Koran incident.

If the offence is standing silently in a public street from which you have not been prohibited, there is little else that you can be guilty of other than thought crime.

 

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