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YT Oxford 30 May 23 9.58pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Dont take Roy out of the equation, i am sure he would take a years contract, and i am in the opinion that McCarthy can be groomed to take over the role, at just the time when the youngsters will be ready, its a massive gamble to employ Potter but also his entourage that will come with him. Last time I looked, he was still signed as a player for Celtic. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 30 May 23 9.58pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Dont take Roy out of the equation, i am sure he would take a years contract, and i am in the opinion that McCarthy can be groomed to take over the role, at just the time when the youngsters will be ready, its a massive gamble to employ Potter but also his entourage that will come with him.

Last time I looked, he was still signed as a player for Celtic.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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ambrose7 Croydon 30 May 23 10.00pm
Originally posted by Zaha127 Who would you like as Palace manager? Rodgers, Potter, Cooper or anyone else? I would like Roy for one final year give him a new RB, midfielder, winger and striker and top 10 can be a possibility. Long term would not mind Kompany or Carrick so if makes sense to give Roy one more year and Kompany/Carrick after a year can be a possibility. Don't really understand this obsession with 'young' low experience managers, especially when a manager rarely sticks around for 2 years and it's clearly Freedman who calls the shots on transfers - evidenced by us seemingly signing Lerma with no manager in charge. Ignore the fancy suit and everything that goes with it and Mark Robins' CV makes a total mockery of Carrick's but he doesn't get a mention. Why would we not go for someone with >10 years' experience? Go for someone who's actually had to deal with a downturn in form and got a side out of it. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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ambrose7

Croydon 30 May 23 10.00pm

Originally posted by Zaha127

Who would you like as Palace manager? Rodgers, Potter, Cooper or anyone else?

I would like Roy for one final year give him a new RB, midfielder, winger and striker and top 10 can be a possibility. Long term would not mind Kompany or Carrick so if makes sense to give Roy one more year and Kompany/Carrick after a year can be a possibility.

Don't really understand this obsession with 'young' low experience managers, especially when a manager rarely sticks around for 2 years and it's clearly Freedman who calls the shots on transfers - evidenced by us seemingly signing Lerma with no manager in charge.

Ignore the fancy suit and everything that goes with it and Mark Robins' CV makes a total mockery of Carrick's but he doesn't get a mention.

Why would we not go for someone with >10 years' experience? Go for someone who's actually had to deal with a downturn in form and got a side out of it.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 30 May 23 10.11pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 Don't really understand this obsession with 'young' low experience managers, especially when a manager rarely sticks around for 2 years and it's clearly Freedman who calls the shots on transfers - evidenced by us seemingly signing Lerma with no manager in charge. Ignore the fancy suit and everything that goes with it and Mark Robins' CV makes a total mockery of Carrick's but he doesn't get a mention. Why would we not go for someone with >10 years' experience? Go for someone who's actually had to deal with a downturn in form and got a side out of it. I hold Mark Robins in high regard. He gained promotion for Coventry from League Two into League One then into the Championship and into the play-offs for a place in the PL. Coventry had to play home games at Birmingham for a couple of seasons whilst he was at the helm. Edited by Willo (30 May 2023 11.36pm)
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Willo Online

South coast - west of Brighton. 30 May 23 10.11pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

Ignore the fancy suit and everything that goes with it and Mark Robins' CV makes a total mockery of Carrick's but he doesn't get a mention.

Why would we not go for someone with >10 years' experience? Go for someone who's actually had to deal with a downturn in form and got a side out of it.

I hold Mark Robins in high regard.
He gained promotion for Coventry from League Two into League One then into the Championship and into the play-offs for a place in the PL.
Coventry had to play home games at Birmingham for a couple of seasons whilst he was at the helm.

Edited by Willo (30 May 2023 11.36pm)

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MrRobbo Purley 30 May 23 10.13pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 Don't really understand this obsession with 'young' low experience managers, especially when a manager rarely sticks around for 2 years and it's clearly Freedman who calls the shots on transfers - evidenced by us seemingly signing Lerma with no manager in charge. Ignore the fancy suit and everything that goes with it and Mark Robins' CV makes a total mockery of Carrick's but he doesn't get a mention. Why would we not go for someone with >10 years' experience? Go for someone who's actually had to deal with a downturn in form and got a side out of it. 100% with you on this If it was any normal job, you'd be asking them to tell you about a time when: You brought through youth You managed a wantaway star You progressed a stable team You were flexible in your system How you restructured a team after the loss of key players etc etc etc
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MrRobbo

Purley 30 May 23 10.13pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

Ignore the fancy suit and everything that goes with it and Mark Robins' CV makes a total mockery of Carrick's but he doesn't get a mention.

Why would we not go for someone with >10 years' experience? Go for someone who's actually had to deal with a downturn in form and got a side out of it.

100% with you on this

If it was any normal job, you'd be asking them to tell you about a time when:
You brought through youth
You managed a wantaway star
You progressed a stable team
You were flexible in your system
How you restructured a team after the loss of key players
etc
etc
etc

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The Dolphin 31 May 23 6.43am
No to Potter, Rogers and co - all failures one way or another. I have no idea who but would like a younger Manager from lower down the leagues with Roy and Ray to help him through.
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The Dolphin

31 May 23 6.43am

No to Potter, Rogers and co - all failures one way or another.
I have no idea who but would like a younger Manager from lower down the leagues with Roy and Ray to help him through.

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The Dolphin 31 May 23 6.43am
If Everton ditch Dyche that would do for me - no Roy or Ray required though
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The Dolphin

31 May 23 6.43am

If Everton ditch Dyche that would do for me - no Roy or Ray required though

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PJEagle London 31 May 23 6.51am
Originally posted by The Dolphin If Everton ditch Dyche that would do for me - no Roy or Ray required though The only manager who hasn't failed Palace is Hodgson. Another season of Roy and Ray, mentoring Paddy would be a good way forward. If not then the two leading candidates would be in my view Cooper if he leaves Forest, or Potter, who did a great job at Brighton and got much better results at Chelsea than Lampard?
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PJEagle

London 31 May 23 6.51am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If Everton ditch Dyche that would do for me - no Roy or Ray required though

The only manager who hasn't failed Palace is Hodgson. Another season of Roy and Ray, mentoring Paddy would be a good way forward. If not then the two leading candidates would be in my view Cooper if he leaves Forest, or Potter, who did a great job at Brighton and got much better results at Chelsea than Lampard?

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Jun 23 9.57am
I remain to be convinced that Hodgson wants a full year. It's one thing to do a rescue job over two and a half months and 10 matches - quite another to do a full season with its constant demands. Having said that, he may have agreed to be the back-up if Parish can't get someone else in, hence the rumours re Potter. I don't see thatit as Hodgson's nose being put out of joint. Time, of course, will tell.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Jun 23 9.57am

I remain to be convinced that Hodgson wants a full year. It's one thing to do a rescue job over two and a half months and 10 matches - quite another to do a full season with its constant demands.

Having said that, he may have agreed to be the back-up if Parish can't get someone else in, hence the rumours re Potter. I don't see thatit as Hodgson's nose being put out of joint.

Time, of course, will tell.

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Putitout Oxford 02 Jun 23 10.18am
I don’t get this , keep Roy as a mentor for Paddy. If Paddy needed a mentor he shouldn’t be given the job . Who ever does the job has to be full on, it can’t be someone having their strings pulled by someone else. All due respect to him , but McCarthy would be a massive risk, his first eight games would amount to a trial for his ability, Palace can not risk that, though it would give Roy thirty games this time to get it sorted. The league gets better more demanding every season, Palace have improved ,just to appear to stand still in many ways, and that at least must continue, but only someone with some sort of high level track record for dealing with the problems of maintaining a presence in the Premier league should be considered. Edited by Putitout (02 Jun 2023 10.20am)
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Putitout

Oxford 02 Jun 23 10.18am

I don’t get this , keep Roy as a mentor for Paddy. If Paddy needed a mentor he shouldn’t be given the job . Who ever does the job has to be full on, it can’t be someone having their strings pulled by someone else.
All due respect to him , but McCarthy would be a massive risk, his first eight games would amount to a trial for his ability, Palace can not risk that, though it would give Roy thirty games this time to get it sorted.
The league gets better more demanding every season, Palace have improved ,just to appear to stand still in many ways, and that at least must continue, but only someone with some sort of high level track record for dealing with the problems of maintaining a presence in the Premier league should be considered.

Edited by Putitout (02 Jun 2023 10.20am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Jun 23 10.37am
Originally posted by Putitout I don’t get this , keep Roy as a mentor for Paddy. If Paddy needed a mentor he shouldn’t be given the job . Who ever does the job has to be full on, it can’t be someone having their strings pulled by someone else. All due respect to him , but McCarthy would be a massive risk, his first eight games would amount to a trial for his ability, Palace can not risk that, though it would give Roy thirty games this time to get it sorted. The league gets better more demanding every season, Palace have improved ,just to appear to stand still in many ways, and that at least must continue, but only someone with some sort of high level track record for dealing with the problems of maintaining a presence in the Premier league should be considered. Edited by Putitout (02 Jun 2023 10.20am) Agreed. Paddy needs to go elsewhere and gets his training and experience and if he succeeds come back. There were siren voices on here ages ago about Shaun Derry becoming our manager but hindsight has shown he is more a put the cones out guy not the manager. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 02 Jun 23 10.37am

Originally posted by Putitout

I don’t get this , keep Roy as a mentor for Paddy. If Paddy needed a mentor he shouldn’t be given the job . Who ever does the job has to be full on, it can’t be someone having their strings pulled by someone else.
All due respect to him , but McCarthy would be a massive risk, his first eight games would amount to a trial for his ability, Palace can not risk that, though it would give Roy thirty games this time to get it sorted.
The league gets better more demanding every season, Palace have improved ,just to appear to stand still in many ways, and that at least must continue, but only someone with some sort of high level track record for dealing with the problems of maintaining a presence in the Premier league should be considered.

Edited by Putitout (02 Jun 2023 10.20am)

Agreed. Paddy needs to go elsewhere and gets his training and experience and if he succeeds come back.

There were siren voices on here ages ago about Shaun Derry becoming our manager but hindsight has shown he is more a put the cones out guy not the manager.

One more point

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Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Jun 23 10.48am
Originally posted by Badger11 Agreed. Paddy needs to go elsewhere and gets his training and experience and if he succeeds come back. There were siren voices on here ages ago about Shaun Derry becoming our manager but hindsight has shown he is more a put the cones out guy not the manager. Shaun Derry does have managerial experience at both Notts Co and Camb Utd. Whilst at Notts Co he signed Hayden Mullins from Birmingham.
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Willo Online

South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Jun 23 10.48am

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed. Paddy needs to go elsewhere and gets his training and experience and if he succeeds come back.

There were siren voices on here ages ago about Shaun Derry becoming our manager but hindsight has shown he is more a put the cones out guy not the manager.

Shaun Derry does have managerial experience at both Notts Co and Camb Utd.
Whilst at Notts Co he signed Hayden Mullins from Birmingham.

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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Jun 23 11.21am
Originally posted by Willo Shaun Derry does have managerial experience at both Notts Co and Camb Utd. Whilst at Notts Co he signed Hayden Mullins from Birmingham. And how did he get on at those clubs? That was my point Willo. He left us with some saying he should be our manager and did not cover him self in glory where he managed so he is more of an assistant to the manager. Edited by Badger11 (02 Jun 2023 11.21am) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 02 Jun 23 11.21am

Originally posted by Willo

Shaun Derry does have managerial experience at both Notts Co and Camb Utd.
Whilst at Notts Co he signed Hayden Mullins from Birmingham.

And how did he get on at those clubs? That was my point Willo.

He left us with some saying he should be our manager and did not cover him self in glory where he managed so he is more of an assistant to the manager.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Jun 2023 11.21am)

One more point

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