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eaglesdare 03 Jun 23 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the only manager i ever want at Palace is one with a long CV of previous success. coulda, shoulda , woulda......is a guarantee of failure.
.....and a shyte manager. Edited by PalazioVecchio (03 Jun 2023 1.56pm) What is success? It's inevitable that all success ends in failure for most football managers. PV is a prime example. First season a success then ended in failure. Brendan Rodger another one. Success with Leicester but then ended in failure. Even Alan pardew a success but then ended in failure with us. End of the day out next manager will last 2-3 years (after hodgson) before it either ends in failure or goes to a bigger club. Marco Silva? Failure at hull and Everton. But then a success at Fulham? Edited by eaglesdare (03 Jun 2023 2.44pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Jun 23 2.56pm | |
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There are some managers who fit particular clubs but then don't fit others. I think that's what we need to think about at Palace. Why so much better under Roy? Answer that question and we probably find what we need to know.
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silvertop Portishead 03 Jun 23 3.52pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
There are some managers who fit particular clubs but then don't fit others. I think that's what we need to think about at Palace. Why so much better under Roy? Answer that question and we probably find what we need to know. Have we not got more points than any team from a losing position? Resilient is a word often bandied about.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 03 Jun 23 4.24pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
There are some managers who fit particular clubs but then don't fit others. I think that's what we need to think about at Palace. Why so much better under Roy? Answer that question and we probably find what we need to know. I think its a simple case that Roy is a top manager, and gets the most out of what he has at club level, good or bad squads. he was very defensive when we had a crap squad, and is being much more expansive with the current squad.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 03 Jun 23 4.40pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
There are some managers who fit particular clubs but then don't fit others. I think that's what we need to think about at Palace. Why so much better under Roy? Answer that question and we probably find what we need to know. as i said above, Croydon-Roy has a long CV with much past success. Surely its The ONLY reasonable qualification for a job as a Prem manager. unless you want Frank Lampard ?
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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Jun 23 5.40pm | |
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I would like to suggest why putting an untried manager in the Palace job is a greater risk than say Arteta was at Arsenal. Arsenal are a rich club with a squad many of whom would walk into our side. If Arteta had been a disaster the club could afford to sack him bring in a replacement and buy players to dig themselves out of a hole in the January window. In fact with a squad of that talent they might not perform to the level of Premier league contenders but more likely do a Chelsea, e.g. mid table mediocrity. I suggest that for us to achieve mid table safety most of our players need to perform well on a consistent basis and if they don't we would get relegated. And unlike Arsenal we probably could not buy our way out of trouble. Just a thought.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jun 23 6.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I would like to suggest why putting an untried manager in the Palace job is a greater risk than say Arteta was at Arsenal. Arsenal are a rich club with a squad many of whom would walk into our side. If Arteta had been a disaster the club could afford to sack him bring in a replacement and buy players to dig themselves out of a hole in the January window. In fact with a squad of that talent they might not perform to the level of Premier league contenders but more likely do a Chelsea, e.g. mid table mediocrity. I suggest that for us to achieve mid table safety most of our players need to perform well on a consistent basis and if they don't we would get relegated. And unlike Arsenal we probably could not buy our way out of trouble. Just a thought.
Pep Guardiola was appointed first team manager at Barcelona 2008-09 having managed their 'B' team, but he joined a top team who had won the League twice, been runners-up twice and finished 3rd in their previous 5 seasons, not forgetting being victorious in the Champions League in one of those campaigns.
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EagleAlan78 Southampton 03 Jun 23 7.54pm | |
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Am keen to know why pepole reckon the club tweeted pics of Hodgson yesterday and the smiley face and hearts? Do you think this means he is staying? I think his done a great job this season but I honestly think it’s time to move on
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Jun 23 11.15am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Have we not got more points than any team from a losing position? Resilient is a word often bandied about. I'm interested in this and did think about when I wrote my post. I then thought, why do we always go behind anyway? My answer is we just don't seem to learn.
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eaglesdare 04 Jun 23 11.19am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I'm interested in this and did think about when I wrote my post. I then thought, why do we always go behind anyway? My answer is we just don't seem to learn. If you listen to other mid table fans they say the exact same thing about their team. This season we seemed to turn up in the second halves and sleep in the first half.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Jun 23 11.49am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
If you listen to other mid table fans they say the exact same thing about their team. This season we seemed to turn up in the second halves and sleep in the first half. Yes, it did seem a bit like that. Even Leeds scored first.
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est1905 04 Jun 23 5.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Michel Arteta Arteta wasn't 'mentored' for the City job under Pep was he? I think I must have missed that.
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