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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 Jan 17 3.21pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

For me, anyone who lives here now. I know some people want to go further than that, but I'd want us to support anyone of any background that is now in the UK. I just personally want us to be cautious about increasing that number until we have improved our ability to support the people that live in the UK right at this moment.

I think we do have the ability, it's just we (meaning successive governments) haven't.

 

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 26 Jan 17 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I think we do have the ability, it's just we (meaning successive governments) haven't.

Yes, fair comment, I agree. I have my own thoughts as to where else the money is spent and possibly shouldn't be, some of those you might agree with and some you probably would not but I admit I am not fully equipped with facts so I won't embroil myself in an argument about my thoughts on that.

 




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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 Jan 17 3.54pm

Originally posted by Farawayeagle

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Good on him.

 

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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 26 Jan 17 4.00pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Jan 17 4.21pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The trouble is, no one really knows why people are homeless.

Mental issues, runaways, alcoholics, people who have lost everything, immigrants etc. They all play a part and I am sure that there are others too. Because of that there is no one solution, certainly not one that is palatable to most people.

Personally I would take them off the streets and put them in some of the unused army camps. A six-twelve month programme where they have medical care, eat properly, learn life skills, physical training, and some form of education
Get paid say £100 a week of which they get £20 a week. the rest is saved for when they leave. Obviously need finessing but as a basic principal I think it could work

I feel pretty sure that this tried many years ago as the old army camp at Honiton near Exeter was housing some homeless people and food and training was supplied but after a few weeks it was closed as all the gear was nicked and the camp wrecked. The TA took it back and cleaned it all up again. It seemed a great idea at the time but never worked out I am afraid.

 


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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Jan 17 4.25pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

IMO the majority of them have mental issues. Lets face it those sleeping rough on our streets, in shop doorways have got to have severe issues as its not a safe place to be and they must be at their lowest point that they just give up. Majority of the places that looked after mental health patients have closed now and its left to either family members to care for them or they end up in NHS hospitals, Prison or on the streets.

I agree with what others hinted, We need to look after our own first. A fella in Dartford aged 94 had been lying dead in his flat for two weeks, Seems he fell and broke his hip and unable to raise the alarm slowly died. His family had een asking for warden assisted property for him for the past 3 years but nothing avaliable.

Lying dead in his flat for two weeks...shows how caring his family really were in not checking on him on a regular basis.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 Jan 17 4.47pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

In that case the armed forces need to be training (If they don't already) men & women how to return to Civvy St with skills that will help them.


Problem isn't so much skills as policy. The MoD and forces are great whilst your enlisted. However many ex servicemen I've spoken too as soon as you've left they had 30 days to find new homes, and others found they lost access to medical and psychological experts (with the MoD and NHS arguing over who would treat them).

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 Jan 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by bubble wrap

IMO the majority of them have mental issues. Lets face it those sleeping rough on our streets, in shop doorways have got to have severe issues as its not a safe place to be and they must be at their lowest point that they just give up. Majority of the places that looked after mental health patients have closed now and its left to either family members to care for them or they end up in NHS hospitals, Prison or on the streets.

I agree with what others hinted, We need to look after our own first. A fella in Dartford aged 94 had been lying dead in his flat for two weeks, Seems he fell and broke his hip and unable to raise the alarm slowly died. His family had een asking for warden assisted property for him for the past 3 years but nothing avaliable.

Those that don't have psychological or psychiatric problems soon will. Living rough is a hard life and takes a great toll and exposes people to some pretty terrible experiences. Even in hostels often are subject to violence, sexaual assault and worse

 


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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Jan 17 5.03pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721


Problem isn't so much skills as policy. The MoD and forces are great whilst your enlisted. However many ex servicemen I've spoken too as soon as you've left they had 30 days to find new homes, and others found they lost access to medical and psychological experts (with the MoD and NHS arguing over who would treat them).

I do not know what the guys you spoke to have done for themselves but there IS help out there for ex servicemen:


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I know in my case the royal marines give endless help to ex booties and help them in both health and job finding and accommodation. In Plymouth Derriford hospital any ex serviceman can get treated without any problem they even have military wards run by service doctors. I admit some ex servicemen fall, by the wayside but that is because they do not chase things up for themselves but rather expect to be waited on hand and foot and then some even end up on the streets which is all pretty sad but their own fault. Most servicemen get training and education on joining Civvy street months before they leave for good.

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 27 Jan 17 9.10am

Originally posted by susmik

Lying dead in his flat for two weeks...shows how caring his family really were in not checking on him on a regular basis.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I dont know the family circumstances same as you so i wouldnt have a pop at them.
My Nan is in her 90's i dont call her every 2 weeks doesnt mean i dont care.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 27 Jan 17 9.18am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I dont know the family circumstances same as you so i wouldnt have a pop at them.
My Nan is in her 90's i dont call her every 2 weeks doesnt mean i dont care.

No one in their 90's should be left alone without any form of contact for more than a day or two if it can be helped, bubble.

 


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