£40 billion divorce bill?
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 elgrande  bedford 21 Nov 17 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'For my perspective' L does this mean that you will be paying for it? Joking apart I think brexiteers should pay for brexit by direct deduction through the PAYE system. Blimey that room emptied quickly!!!!!! Tell me are you presently employed.
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| npn Crowborough 21 Nov 17 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'For my perspective' L does this mean that you will be paying for it? Joking apart I think brexiteers should pay for brexit by direct deduction through the PAYE system. Blimey that room emptied quickly!!!!!! Good idea - I presume you also back this in reverse, i.e. stop brexit and all the remainers will pay the EU fees?
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 becky over the moon 21 Nov 17 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by npn
Good idea - I presume you also back this in reverse, i.e. stop brexit and all the remainers will pay the EU fees? This gives rise to endless possibilities - as a childless person, can I have all my taxes/rates back that went to educate other people's brats?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Nov 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by npn
Good idea - I presume you also back this in reverse, i.e. stop brexit and all the remainers will pay the EU fees? No there is nothing to pay. The negotiations are paid by the EU that includes us anyway. I can't see any real problem except some humble pie for some people.
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| npn Crowborough 21 Nov 17 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No there is nothing to pay. The negotiations are paid by the EU that includes us anyway. I can't see any real problem except some humble pie for some people. what about all the UK contributions to the EU coffers? We are one of the largest net contributors
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| npn Crowborough 21 Nov 17 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by becky
This gives rise to endless possibilities - as a childless person, can I have all my taxes/rates back that went to educate other people's brats? absolutely - sounds like a plan! Pacifists get their military contributions back, vigilantes have no need for the police, etc
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 21 Nov 17 1.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We have already covered all this ground already and the people voted leave. They had weeks to decide and were exposed to all the lies and spin you'd expect in a referendum from both sides. The fact is that many people know that the EU will become a huge superstate run by the Germans where globalisation will only mean lower wages and masses of immigrants and most people don't want that. That trumps all other considerations. Sorry, but that's not even remotely true - I didn't see a divorce bill mentioned once (by either side) during the campaign, and certainly not a £40bn+ one. It speaks volumes for how bad the remain campaign was that they didn't make the electorate more aware of the financial commitments we had made to the EU, which I'm sure the politicians must have been aware of. I can understand why the Leave campaign wouldn't be shouting about it (although ethically it should certainly have been raised), but I find it staggering that remain didn't make more of a big deal of it - knowledge of a huge divorce bill like this would surely have swung more votes their way. Either way, to suggest that this ground was covered before the referendum is just fabrication.
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 21 Nov 17 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by becky
So we pay them 40 billion to leave, then we just demand our deposits with the European back on departure........ some 32-35 billion I believe! I am not aware of any "deposits" with the European bank (presumably you mean the ECB?). The UK has, however, capitalised the European Investment Bank (along with all EU countries) to the tune of £3.5 billion. This finances loans to EU countries for development projects.The loans are amortised over various periods up to 2054. Therefore the UK will not receive the £3.5 billion back in full until then (unless otherwise negotiated). The actual monetary obligations that the UK has to the EU were signed up to by the government in 2014, and amount to more than £60-70 billion. Negotiations may reduce this, but with the present UK team doing the negotiating, don't bank on it!
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| Lyons550 Shirley 21 Nov 17 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No there is nothing to pay. The negotiations are paid by the EU that includes us anyway. I can't see any real problem except some humble pie for some people.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 21 Nov 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by crystal balls
I am not aware of any "deposits" with the European bank (presumably you mean the ECB?). The UK has, however, capitalised the European Investment Bank (along with all EU countries) to the tune of £3.5 billion. This finances loans to EU countries for development projects.The loans are amortised over various periods up to 2054. Therefore the UK will not receive the £3.5 billion back in full until then (unless otherwise negotiated). The actual monetary obligations that the UK has to the EU were signed up to by the government in 2014, and amount to more than £60-70 billion. Negotiations may reduce this, but with the present UK team doing the negotiating, don't bank on it!
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 21 Nov 17 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by becky
This gives rise to endless possibilities - as a childless person, can I have all my taxes/rates back that went to educate other people's brats? hear hear!
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| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Nov 17 3.25pm |
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Firstly Becky, you would have to reimburse the state for the taxes paid by others for your own upbringing. All those taxes/rates paid for you as a child yourself by other people, your schooling welfare etc. Assuming that you and C were children or 'brats' as you call them.
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