LMAO @ Abel Hernandez (straight terrible), ward-prowse, walters, and allen are all not pacey by any means

1. Cabaye is the first player of Palace who comes behind Benteke in order to finish. Palace plays 4-3-3 and Leicester plays 4-4-2, that's why there's a difference between Cabaye and Okazaki. But they both pretty much operate behind the striker, even though Okazaki is a forward and Cabaye is a midfielder (though he has played behind the striker before, in his good days at Newcastle).
I didn't say they are the same type, but they're the first who appear behind the main striker (Vardy, Benteke) for their respective teams.

2. Statistically looking at football is not bad. You notice a pattern. You can see where it all will go. You should try arranging your thoughts a little bit looking at player statistics. You'll see how everything suddenly makes sense. But you have to know which stats are worthy. If one tells me 2 teams have met 50 times before the EPL was formed and one of the has always won, that is a bollocks statistic cause it means nothing for the present.

3. Let's try naming the players WITH pace who have success and the players WITHOUT pace. You've given me 2 names: Diego Costa and Ibrahimovic. I agree they aren't the most pacey footballers. I can't agree about Kane cause age alone makes him pretty darn fast.

You won't get past the 10 mark.
On the other hand, I'll name you: Vardy, Josh King, Antonio, Andre Gray, Zaha, Townsend, Chadli, Benik Afobe, Abel Hernandez, Stanislas, Ryan Fraser, Ward-Prowse,Niasse, Shane Long, Enner Valencia, Jonathan Walters, Joe Allen and Lanzini, Shaqiri all in the Premier League alone.

And in other countries: Aubameyang, Dembele, Schurrle, Robben, Ribery, Kimmich, Thomas Muller, Werner (new wonderkid of Germany), Forsberg, Demirbay, Carrasco, Pablo Sarabia, Ben Yedder, Gameiro, Gaitan, Bakambu, Cavani, Lacazette, Matuidi, Verratti, Dybala, Mertens, Callejon, Icardi, Belotti, Ciro Immobile, Bertrand Traore and Hakim Ziyech (saw him last night for Ajax and God, he was amazing! Soooo much running)

Or Icardi (he is quite quick on FM though), but definitely not noticeably pacey in real life.

What about Rakitic, Busquets, Iniesta, Thiago, Xabi Alonso, Kroos, Benzema, Casemiro... To name a few without any glaring pace yet all play for teams who have no issues absolutely dismantling English teams year in year out in the CL. This guy is a buffoon

We were talking about attacking players and you bring Matic and Carrick into the discussion.

Firmino is def not slow

Deeney is trash

David Silva is not as slow as Ozil or other slow players, he's quite ok for his age

Ramsey?? WHAT THE F**K???

Dele Alli, Juan Mata are not slow

That leaves just 5, maybe 6 top players who aren't incredibly pacey among the players who actually do something in the league (Ibra, Costa, Giroud, Gabbiadini, Ozil and maybe Cazorla, though he stopped being an attacking player )

I'd add to this list Benteke, Rondon, Aguero. That's 8 in the Premier League.

You have to go somewhere else to get past the 10 mark, look for Higuain, Pjanic, Dzeko, Lewandowski, Thiago, Benzema, Kroos, Ibisevic. That's about it

Edited by mattteo (15 Apr 2017 8.34pm)

1. Cabaye is the first player of Palace who comes behind Benteke in order to finish. Palace plays 4-3-3 and Leicester plays 4-4-2, that's why there's a difference between Cabaye and Okazaki. But they both pretty much operate behind the striker, even though Okazaki is a forward and Cabaye is a midfielder (though he has played behind the striker before, in his good days at Newcastle).
I didn't say they are the same type, but they're the first who appear behind the main striker (Vardy, Benteke) for their respective teams.

2. Statistically looking at football is not bad. You notice a pattern. You can see where it all will go. You should try arranging your thoughts a little bit looking at player statistics. You'll see how everything suddenly makes sense. But you have to know which stats are worthy. If one tells me 2 teams have met 50 times before the EPL was formed and one of the has always won, that is a bollocks statistic cause it means nothing for the present.

3. Let's try naming the players WITH pace who have success and the players WITHOUT pace. You've given me 2 names: Diego Costa and Ibrahimovic. I agree they aren't the most pacey footballers. I can't agree about Kane cause age alone makes him pretty darn fast.

You won't get past the 10 mark.
On the other hand, I'll name you: Vardy, Josh King, Antonio, Andre Gray, Zaha, Townsend, Chadli, Benik Afobe, Abel Hernandez, Stanislas, Ryan Fraser, Ward-Prowse,Niasse, Shane Long, Enner Valencia, Jonathan Walters, Joe Allen and Lanzini, Shaqiri all in the Premier League alone.

And in other countries: Aubameyang, Dembele, Schurrle, Robben, Ribery, Kimmich, Thomas Muller, Werner (new wonderkid of Germany), Forsberg, Demirbay, Carrasco, Pablo Sarabia, Ben Yedder, Gameiro, Gaitan, Bakambu, Cavani, Lacazette, Matuidi, Verratti, Dybala, Mertens, Callejon, Icardi, Belotti, Ciro Immobile, Bertrand Traore and Hakim Ziyech (saw him last night for Ajax and God, he was amazing! Soooo much running)