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Dave Whelan appears to have made an anti semantic comment.

You would think in this day and age that he would know better.

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Very disappointing. Let's hope for an apology and better behaviour.

 


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Quote matt_himself at 20 Nov 2014 7.56pm
Dave Whelan appears to have made an anti semantic comment.


Which bit weren't you clear on?

 


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Quote matt_himself at 20 Nov 2014 7.56pm

Dave Whelan appears to have made an anti semantic comment.

You would think in this day and age that he would know better.

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Very disappointing. Let's hope for an apology and better behaviour.[/quote]

Why?
What he said is true in my experience. Does that make me anti-Semitic? No. It's purely my observation.
It's not offensive unless you're seeking to be offended for some reason. Are you?


 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 20 Nov 14 8.39pm

Quote TUX at 20 Nov 2014 8.14pm

matt_himself at 20 Nov 2014 7.56pm

Dave Whelan appears to have made an anti semantic comment.

You would think in this day and age that he would know better.

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Very disappointing. Let's hope for an apology and better behaviour.

Why?
What he said is true in my experience. Does that make me anti-Semitic? No. It's purely my observation.
It's not offensive unless you're seeking to be offended for some reason. Are you?


He said anti semantic

Edited by Pussay Patrol (20 Nov 2014 8.42pm)

 


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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Nov 14 8.44pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

The Ultra-Orthodox men, arguably the most Jewish, usually don't work - too busy studying The Torah - and are generally p1ss poor. Chasing money is the last thing on their mind.

As with most generalisations, be it about Palestinians, the left, students, teachers, etc, it is smothered in ignorance more than actual racism.

Also, some racialist comments don't automatically mean racism - the bullying, violence, excluding, haranguing that is real racism; the proper hardcore stuff - though for some unknown reason the media says it does.

Edited by Kermit8 (20 Nov 2014 9.01pm)

 


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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 20 Nov 14 9.57pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

He's actually endorsing and defending Mackay's comments so ironically it's worse in the context of the full interview.

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legaleagle Flag 21 Nov 14 9.16am

Malky and Dave Whelan (estimated wealth 2012 $210 million): a marriage made in heaven. Perhaps TUX can be the bridesmaid.

TUX, you surprise and disappoint me. I really thought you were better than that.The frightening thing is you don't even realise how inappropriate your comment is. I'm not going to dignify such trash with further comment.

Kermit, I appreciate where you are coming from, but, as you know, it is entirely possible for comments by the Whelan/Malky/Tux triumvirate to reflect both ignorance and prejudice.

Oh well, must go now. Off to work to try and make money more than anyone of a different religion; its just the inbred way we are

Edited by legaleagle (21 Nov 2014 9.22am)

 

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Quote TUX at 20 Nov 2014 8.14pm

It's not offensive unless you're seeking to be offended for some reason. Are you?

It is interesting that in the past I have spoken to people of different cultures about words used to describe them and they tell me that their communities are NOT offended at all and see the terms used as "Descriptive" rather than offensive ! So who are the people who have decided that certain words are 'Offensive' to those NOT from these shores ?

A few years ago I returned from holiday somewhat 'Bronzed'. An asian turned around to me and said "You look like a ****" !!!!

Finally I suspect that we are reaching the stage where we won't be able to say we don't like "Irish stew" as it offends those from the 'Emerald Isle' !


 

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Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 9.27am

Finally I suspect that we are reaching the stage where we won't be able to say we don't like "Irish stew" as it offends those from the 'Emerald Isle' !

No, I think we are finally reaching a stage where people naturally don't use racist language.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Nov 14 10.33am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote topcat at 21 Nov 2014 9.44am

Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 9.27am

Finally I suspect that we are reaching the stage where we won't be able to say we don't like "Irish stew" as it offends those from the 'Emerald Isle' !

No, I think we are finally reaching a stage where people naturally don't use racist language.

The point I was making is that the parameters of what is "racist" appear to be widening by the day. What is not deemed "Racist" today might well fall into that category tomorrow.Henceforth those people who "Don't naturally use racist language" in this day and age could find they are castigated in the future.


 

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Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 10.33am

Quote topcat at 21 Nov 2014 9.44am

Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 9.27am

Finally I suspect that we are reaching the stage where we won't be able to say we don't like "Irish stew" as it offends those from the 'Emerald Isle' !

No, I think we are finally reaching a stage where people naturally don't use racist language.

The point I was making is that the parameters of what is "racist" appear to be widening by the day. What is not deemed "Racist" today might well fall into that category tomorrow.Henceforth those people who "Don't naturally use racist language" in this day and age could find they are castigated in the future.


Well I don't know what Jewish people you have spoken to but most I know would take great offence at being told "Jewish people chase money more than everybody else" and I definitely don't know any Chinese people happy to described as "Chinks" - especially when clearly in context meant perjoratively.

 


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Quote TUX at 20 Nov 2014 8.14pm

What he said is true in my experience. Does that make me anti-Semitic?


Jewish people, on the whole, are the same with money as everybody else. Until you realise that not only are you anti-semetic but also highly ignorant.

Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 9.27am

It is interesting that in the past I have spoken to people of different cultures about words used to describe them and they tell me that their communities are NOT offended at all and see the terms used as "Descriptive" rather than offensive ! So who are the people who have decided that certain words are 'Offensive' to those NOT from these shores ?


Apologies Willo, but I just don't believe that. You're telling me that you've said to a black man 'Excuse me but do you find n*gger offensive?' That's a porky pie isn't it mate? Made up for the purposes of this argument?

If, by some bizzare reason, you have actually carried out this supposed survey, I would suggest your research is flawed and the majority of people would find these terms offensive. Do yourself a little test if you like - write out a list of these 'terms' and ask yourself if you would use them to a complete stranger.

Descriptive rather than offensive term? Hmmm, I can't think of any. Please can you give us some examples?

Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 9.27am

A few years ago I returned from holiday somewhat 'Bronzed'. An asian turned around to me and said "You look like a ****" !!!!



So, because an Indian man once used a self-deprecation/offensive term (I'm guessing for comic effect), it's ok for everyone to use it?

If not, then what's your point?

 


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