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Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

 


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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.


I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

 


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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.


I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

 

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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

 


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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

Different situation. Both sides have opened with sound-bytes for the media but compromise would look to be best for both sides. If the EU/lenders don't allow a renegotiation then Greece will default and be out of the Euro, the last thing Germany wants. And the Greeks don't want to be a country that no-one will ever lend to so they won't go through with a complete end to austerity as they were shouting during the election. Nothings certain but both sides have indicated they are open to talks.

 

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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

Different situation. Both sides have opened with sound-bytes for the media but compromise would look to be best for both sides. If the EU/lenders don't allow a renegotiation then Greece will default and be out of the Euro, the last thing Germany wants. And the Greeks don't want to be a country that no-one will ever lend to so they won't go through with a complete end to austerity as they were shouting during the election. Nothings certain but both sides have indicated they are open to talks.

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There has been no indication from anyone other than Greece to either renegotiation or talks.

 


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Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

Different situation. Both sides have opened with sound-bytes for the media but compromise would look to be best for both sides. If the EU/lenders don't allow a renegotiation then Greece will default and be out of the Euro, the last thing Germany wants. And the Greeks don't want to be a country that no-one will ever lend to so they won't go through with a complete end to austerity as they were shouting during the election. Nothings certain but both sides have indicated they are open to talks.

[Link]

There has been no indication from anyone other than Greece to either renegotiation or talks.

Nice try, but check out Robert Pestons take on the subject. [Link]
Same BBC, slightly different take, go figure. This is the prevailing view among economists. As i said, both sides are talking big but don't read too much into it, negotiations are the only way for both sides to get what they want. Not set in stone by any means but more then likely.

 

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Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

Different situation. Both sides have opened with sound-bytes for the media but compromise would look to be best for both sides. If the EU/lenders don't allow a renegotiation then Greece will default and be out of the Euro, the last thing Germany wants. And the Greeks don't want to be a country that no-one will ever lend to so they won't go through with a complete end to austerity as they were shouting during the election. Nothings certain but both sides have indicated they are open to talks.

[Link]

There has been no indication from anyone other than Greece to either renegotiation or talks.

Nice try, but check out Robert Pestons take on the subject. [Link]
Same BBC, slightly different take, go figure. This is the prevailing view among economists. As i said, both sides are talking big but don't read too much into it, negotiations are the only way for both sides to get what they want. Not set in stone by any means but more then likely.

An interesting development that i seemed to have missed is that the Greeks are saying they won't back the call for more EU sanctions against Russia. Not sure if they held this position pre-election or if this is a stance to use as a bargining chip with the EU...

 

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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

Different situation. Both sides have opened with sound-bytes for the media but compromise would look to be best for both sides. If the EU/lenders don't allow a renegotiation then Greece will default and be out of the Euro, the last thing Germany wants. And the Greeks don't want to be a country that no-one will ever lend to so they won't go through with a complete end to austerity as they were shouting during the election. Nothings certain but both sides have indicated they are open to talks.

[Link]

There has been no indication from anyone other than Greece to either renegotiation or talks.

Nice try, but check out Robert Pestons take on the subject. [Link]
Same BBC, slightly different take, go figure. This is the prevailing view among economists. As i said, both sides are talking big but don't read too much into it, negotiations are the only way for both sides to get what they want. Not set in stone by any means but more then likely.

I read that two days ago. It doesn't contradict my previous statement.

 


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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm

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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

I'd imagine the debt will be re-negotiated, seems best for all concerned.

Not for the lenders. Didn't happen when Argentina tried it recently either.

Different situation. Both sides have opened with sound-bytes for the media but compromise would look to be best for both sides. If the EU/lenders don't allow a renegotiation then Greece will default and be out of the Euro, the last thing Germany wants. And the Greeks don't want to be a country that no-one will ever lend to so they won't go through with a complete end to austerity as they were shouting during the election. Nothings certain but both sides have indicated they are open to talks.

[Link]

There has been no indication from anyone other than Greece to either renegotiation or talks.

Nice try, but check out Robert Pestons take on the subject. [Link]
Same BBC, slightly different take, go figure. This is the prevailing view among economists. As i said, both sides are talking big but don't read too much into it, negotiations are the only way for both sides to get what they want. Not set in stone by any means but more then likely.

I read that two days ago. It doesn't contradict my previous statement.


Erm, ok. No, it just backs up mine.

 

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Robert Peston doesn't speak for the EU, ECB, IMF nor any Eurozone leader. The last I heard.

Whilst it might happen, there has been no indication to do so from anyone other than Greece.

 


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Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.


I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice.

 

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