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Finally, after 27 years, those responsible for the unnecessary deaths of 96 people are being called to book. By a 7-2 vote, the jury concluded that these deaths were the result of criminal negligence (unlawful killing) due to the failure of police command to adequately plan and as well as opening the exit gate which is blamed as the proximate cause of the crush. Sheffield Wednesday is being held responsible for their share in failing to insure safety. I wish the FA's decision to choose Hillsborough for that match even though they knew, or should have known, that there were crushes at several semi finals held there going back to 1981. the supporters were held blameless (Question 7). Can we now acknowledge that this was not due to drunkeness or hooliganism. This was down to incompetence rising to a criminal level by people responsible for one thing, safety. That an incompetent police commander failed to do his duty. That an English Football Club, whose chairman was quoted as saying any threat of a life threatening crush was "nonsense" put his wallet ahead of ticket buying customers. That things we take for granted at Selhurst Park, competent policing, dedicated turnstiles for terrace sections, as they were when the Holmesdale was a three section terrace, didn't exist at Hillsborough with fatal consequences.

 


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View Harpo's Profile Harpo Flag Oxfordshire 26 Apr 16 11.36am Send a Private Message to Harpo Add Harpo as a friend

A fantastic result.

Shame that there are people out there who contributed directly to such a delay.

LFC96 RIP.

 

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View radsyrendot's Profile radsyrendot Flag From Coventry now in Leicester 26 Apr 16 11.37am Send a Private Message to radsyrendot Add radsyrendot as a friend

I don't agree with 8,9,10,14 Blame the FA for allowing it to go ahead without a safety certificate

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Criminal charges now being considered.

 

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some sort of closure at last for the families...not sure about criminal charges was a total clusterf**k by a lot of people and organisations

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 Apr 16 12.48pm

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

some sort of closure at last for the families...not sure about criminal charges was a total clusterf**k by a lot of people and organisations

Given that it seems as if statements were tampered with and altered, it wouldn't surprise me if there were grounds for criminal charges relating to the investigation and perjury - rather than relating to the events on 1989.

 


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A good decision today for the families, the fans and the city.
Heads should roll but i honestly can't help thinking they won't. 'The establishment' will once again pull out all the stops to look after their own.

 


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View CPFC1965's Profile CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 26 Apr 16 1.49pm Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

It amazes me that they can blame Sheffield Wednesday for some of the cause and yet the FA, who chose the venue, are completely exhonerated of any blame.

No one here in the Northwest was in any doubt that a verdict of unlawful killing would be returned we're just surprised it has taken so long.

 

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Originally posted by CPFC1965

It amazes me that they can blame Sheffield Wednesday for some of the cause and yet the FA, who chose the venue, are completely exhonerated of any blame.

No one here in the Northwest was in any doubt that a verdict of unlawful killing would be returned we're just surprised it has taken so long.

Have to agree with this. Can't see how Sheffield Wednesday have to shoulder some blame but the FA don't seeing as it was them that chose the venue.

Also I'll put my tin hat on and take cover but I can't believe that no blame whatsoever has been attributed to any fans that turned up without tickets.

I don't dispute any of the findings with regards to the policing of the event and the subsequent lies, cover ups and statement altering. Disgusting behaviour that needs to be investigated further but I'm sorry I will always stand by that Liverpool fans without tickets trying to get in must also take so e responsibility.

 


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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Have to agree with this. Can't see how Sheffield Wednesday have to shoulder some blame but the FA don't seeing as it was them that chose the venue.

Also I'll put my tin hat on and take cover but I can't believe that no blame whatsoever has been attributed to any fans that turned up without tickets.

I don't dispute any of the findings with regards to the policing of the event and the subsequent lies, cover ups and statement altering. Disgusting behaviour that needs to be investigated further but I'm sorry I will always stand by that Liverpool fans without tickets trying to get in must also take so e responsibility.



How do you know that the reports about there being loads of fans without tickets are true? Wasn't that just part of the lies and cover up that everyone now accepts happened?

 

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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Have to agree with this. Can't see how Sheffield Wednesday have to shoulder some blame but the FA don't seeing as it was them that chose the venue.

Also I'll put my tin hat on and take cover but I can't believe that no blame whatsoever has been attributed to any fans that turned up without tickets.

I don't dispute any of the findings with regards to the policing of the event and the subsequent lies, cover ups and statement altering. Disgusting behaviour that needs to be investigated further but I'm sorry I will always stand by that Liverpool fans without tickets trying to get in must also take so e responsibility.

All the top teams in the '80s used to try and get in without tickets for the semi or cup finals. Liverpool, Everton, Man U, Spurs, they all tried it if they couldn't get a ticket or knew they'd get in without paying or slipping the turnstyle operator a small tip. You just can't prove it.

Only the year after there were Liverpool fans being led round the pitch during the match. They were playing football in the park to the left of The Holte End. Last season a lot turned up without tickets and tried to get over the walls behind the WH end.

I think the treatment of football fans as cattle and also general football fan behaviour in large numbers in those days contributed to this. Also, previous events. Heysel, Ibrox, other near castrophes no doubt. Birmingham at Selhurst was only weeks after Hillsborough. That was a huge number of fans where more serious injuries could have happened.

 


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Originally posted by fan zhiyi



How do you know that the reports about there being loads of fans without tickets are true? Wasn't that just part of the lies and cover up that everyone now accepts happened?

Well we don't no for certain either way but anyone who went to football in the 80s will know that Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and some others were notorious for turning up to games without tickets.

An inquest works on the balance of probability. I would say it was most probable that their were fans without tickets... The jury didn't though and its their opinion that counts.

I'm not trying to be sensational about anything. It's just my opinion. I doubt I'm alone in it. But others will disagree. That's the beauty of free speech.

 


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