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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 May 24 5.20pm
Lefties tax working-people to pay for losers. Discuss Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 May 2024 5.39pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Lefties tax working-people to pay for losers.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 May 2024 5.39pm)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 May 24 5.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Essentially boomers need to accept that the ideas thay have held sacred all their lives were taken advantage of and used against them and will now be held against their children. Instead what I typically see is a lot of denial and burying the head in the sand. However, slowly more people are waking up to what becomes more and more difficult to ignore. ------------------------------------------------------- generous Social Welfare does not eradicate poverty. It breeds more and more poverty, social exclusion and division. Thus creating a dystopia a la Sweden. Of the 4 lads who planted the London 7/7 bombs, how many grew up fed by the taxpayer ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 May 2024 5.34pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 05 May 24 5.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Essentially boomers need to accept that the ideas thay have held sacred all their lives were taken advantage of and used against them and will now be held against their children.

Instead what I typically see is a lot of denial and burying the head in the sand. However, slowly more people are waking up to what becomes more and more difficult to ignore.

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generous Social Welfare does not eradicate poverty. It breeds more and more poverty, social exclusion and division. Thus creating a dystopia a la Sweden.

Of the 4 lads who planted the London 7/7 bombs, how many grew up fed by the taxpayer ?

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Stirlingsays 05 May 24 5.35pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio generous Social Welfare does not eradicate poverty. It breeds more and more poverty, social exclusion and division. Thus creating a dystopia a la Sweden. Of the 4 lads who planted the London 7/7 bombs, how many grew up fed by the taxpayer ? The welfare state was never created for foreigners but political parties are made up of careerists seeking power and thus will use whatever means that benefits their careers and ideology to the exclusion of anything else. Thus, just as Lyndon Johnson decided that minorities would vote Democrat and so backed the civil rights movement (which they lied about to people) for votes so the social liberals dominating our political system will use immigration for votes.....and the Tories use it to please their business donors and as a method of enlarging the tax base (which doesn't work long term due to dependents). It's a pyramid scheme....a Ponzi....but we live in the generations that don't plant trees for future generations but instead pick off the fruits and then throw down weed killer. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 May 2024 5.39pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 May 24 5.35pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

generous Social Welfare does not eradicate poverty. It breeds more and more poverty, social exclusion and division. Thus creating a dystopia a la Sweden.

Of the 4 lads who planted the London 7/7 bombs, how many grew up fed by the taxpayer ?

The welfare state was never created for foreigners but political parties are made up of careerists seeking power and thus will use whatever means that benefits their careers and ideology to the exclusion of anything else.

Thus, just as Lyndon Johnson decided that minorities would vote Democrat and so backed the civil rights movement (which they lied about to people) for votes so the social liberals dominating our political system will use immigration for votes.....and the Tories use it to please their business donors and as a method of enlarging the tax base (which doesn't work long term due to dependents).

It's a pyramid scheme....a Ponzi....but we live in the generations that don't plant trees for future generations but instead pick off the fruits and then throw down weed killer.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 May 2024 5.39pm)

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HKOwen Hong Kong 06 May 24 7.01am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Islam and the Left are polar opposites. Destined to fight forever. its Stalin & the US in May 1945.....having beaten the Tories, they will now fight each other. Islam is the far right. antisemitic, homophobic, censoring, racially prejudiced, controlling who does and doesnt breed, violent, intolerant, taxing infidels, etc etc. Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 May 2024 3.00pm) Yay, Queers for Palestine Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 06 May 24 7.01am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Islam and the Left are polar opposites. Destined to fight forever.

its Stalin & the US in May 1945.....having beaten the Tories, they will now fight each other.

Islam is the far right.

antisemitic, homophobic, censoring, racially prejudiced, controlling who does and doesnt breed, violent, intolerant, taxing infidels, etc etc.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 May 2024 3.00pm)

Yay, Queers for Palestine

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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becky over the moon 06 May 24 8.12am
I still maintain that we should go back to the old system of only taxpayers having the right to vote. Puts on tin hat and sits under the stairs A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 06 May 24 8.12am

I still maintain that we should go back to the old system of only taxpayers having the right to vote.

Puts on tin hat and sits under the stairs

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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The Dolphin 06 May 24 8.18am
Becky - I would agree mostly but then there will always be a group who should probably have the right such as poor pensioners - just a single example and of course many of them pay tax I guess. In general it is an excellent idea.
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06 May 24 8.18am

Becky - I would agree mostly but then there will always be a group who should probably have the right such as poor pensioners - just a single example and of course many of them pay tax I guess.
In general it is an excellent idea.

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Stirlingsays 06 May 24 10.04am
Originally posted by becky I still maintain that we should go back to the old system of only taxpayers having the right to vote. Puts on tin hat and sits under the stairs I have a lot of sympathy with this view though I'd have it even fewer and make it home owners. Is it fair....well considering how hard owning a home is now it probably isn't. However, does it ensure that those voting have a massive stake in the nation's future....Yes. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 May 24 10.04am

Originally posted by becky

I still maintain that we should go back to the old system of only taxpayers having the right to vote.

Puts on tin hat and sits under the stairs

I have a lot of sympathy with this view though I'd have it even fewer and make it home owners.

Is it fair....well considering how hard owning a home is now it probably isn't.

However, does it ensure that those voting have a massive stake in the nation's future....Yes.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 06 May 24 10.57am
Originally posted by becky I still maintain that we should go back to the old system of only taxpayers having the right to vote. Puts on tin hat and sits under the stairs an excellent idea Becky. Of course, it will never happen. Too much inertia and resistance from all the usual suspects. in the absence of fairness, productive people can always set up their lives to pay as little tax as possible. Always a good strategy when the Social-Contract is broken. The poor, and lefties, are always banging on about hating the Wealthy. And yet those wealthy people pay disproportionately most into the system. And the poor are poor for a reason. Its not a big conspiracy making them poor, so much as an absence of success, talent or work-ethic. Either themselves being losers or their parents being so- often both. its hard to own a ten million quid house in, say, Knightsbridge, without having got nobbled by a taxman a few times. Ditto for high-flying careers, inheritors, and startup millionaires. Lefties hate the rich. And mostly its a combination of jealousy, envy, and spite. Personally, when i visit Monaco and see a two-hundred million quid Yacht, i think 'good luck to the owner, even if his girlfriend is fitter than yours' Jealousy is the green eyed monster that mocks the meat it feeds upon. Produces bile, hatred and anger. Best avoided. Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 May 2024 11.20am) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 06 May 24 10.57am

Originally posted by becky

I still maintain that we should go back to the old system of only taxpayers having the right to vote.

Puts on tin hat and sits under the stairs

an excellent idea Becky. Of course, it will never happen. Too much inertia and resistance from all the usual suspects.

in the absence of fairness, productive people can always set up their lives to pay as little tax as possible. Always a good strategy when the Social-Contract is broken.

The poor, and lefties, are always banging on about hating the Wealthy. And yet those wealthy people pay disproportionately most into the system.

And the poor are poor for a reason. Its not a big conspiracy making them poor, so much as an absence of success, talent or work-ethic. Either themselves being losers or their parents being so- often both.

its hard to own a ten million quid house in, say, Knightsbridge, without having got nobbled by a taxman a few times. Ditto for high-flying careers, inheritors, and startup millionaires.

Lefties hate the rich. And mostly its a combination of jealousy, envy, and spite. Personally, when i visit Monaco and see a two-hundred million quid Yacht, i think 'good luck to the owner, even if his girlfriend is fitter than yours' Jealousy is the green eyed monster that mocks the meat it feeds upon. Produces bile, hatred and anger. Best avoided.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 06 May 24 12.35pm
bar the prisoners for a start, taxpayers or not Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 06 May 24 12.35pm

bar the prisoners for a start, taxpayers or not

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PalazioVecchio south pole 06 May 24 1.08pm
Originally posted by HKOwen bar the prisoners for a start, taxpayers or not no votes for..... prisoners the longTerm unemployed scroungers, anybody done for benefits fraud or caught working while on the dole, money launderers, drug dealers who cannot explain their wealth & nice car, and anybody whose wealth or Cricket allegiance is domiciled in another country ....eh Rishi Sunak ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 May 2024 1.11pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 06 May 24 1.08pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

bar the prisoners for a start, taxpayers or not

no votes for.....

prisoners
the longTerm unemployed

scroungers,
anybody done for benefits fraud or caught working while on the dole,
money launderers,

drug dealers who cannot explain their wealth & nice car, and anybody whose wealth or Cricket allegiance is domiciled in another country ....eh Rishi Sunak ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 May 2024 1.11pm)

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georgenorman 06 May 24 1.28pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio no votes for..... prisoners the longTerm unemployed scroungers, anybody done for benefits fraud or caught working while on the dole, money launderers, drug dealers who cannot explain their wealth & nice car, and anybody whose wealth or Cricket allegiance is domiciled in another country ....eh Rishi Sunak ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 May 2024 1.11pm) Prisoners can't vote. Mind you, aren't they suffering enough already without having to put up with politicians knocking on their cell-doors canvassing for votes?
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georgenorman

06 May 24 1.28pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

no votes for.....

prisoners
the longTerm unemployed

scroungers,
anybody done for benefits fraud or caught working while on the dole,
money launderers,

drug dealers who cannot explain their wealth & nice car, and anybody whose wealth or Cricket allegiance is domiciled in another country ....eh Rishi Sunak ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 May 2024 1.11pm)

Prisoners can't vote.

Mind you, aren't they suffering enough already without having to put up with politicians knocking on their cell-doors canvassing for votes?

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cryrst The garden of England 06 May 24 2.19pm
Originally posted by georgenorman Prisoners can't vote. Mind you, aren't they suffering enough already without having to put up with politicians knocking on their cell-doors canvassing for votes? Some aren’t suffering enough sadly. Peodos, rapists, murderers and terrorists to name but some.
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cryrst

The garden of England 06 May 24 2.19pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Prisoners can't vote.

Mind you, aren't they suffering enough already without having to put up with politicians knocking on their cell-doors canvassing for votes?

Some aren’t suffering enough sadly. Peodos, rapists, murderers and terrorists to name but some.

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