Gaza Strip 'invades' Israel.
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 Hrolf The Ganger  19 Apr 24 12.56pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Israeli missile has struck Iran apparently. Anyone care to elaborate on what this 'means'? I've not been following with enough interest to hold an informed opinion on the symbolism/consequences of this, nor have the general knowledge or understanding of it all to do likewise. Grazi. Usually a whistling sound followed by a very loud explosion.
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| georgenorman 19 Apr 24 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it wouldn’t! The defeat and removal of Hamas is but one strand of a complicated international situation. It cannot be viewed in isolation. It is just not that simple. Removing Hamas without finding a way to establish peaceful coexistence between Israel and Iran and all the other Iranian surrogates would simply mean the problem has shifted. Israel would not have prevailed in any kind of meaningful way. You prevail when you win a war. Not after a battle. So you would like Israel to enlarge its operations to include Iran and other Iranian surrogates. Meanwhile, you would like Israel to prevail over Hamas? Edited by georgenorman (19 Apr 2024 1.47pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Apr 24 2.34pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
So you would like Israel to enlarge its operations to include Iran and other Iranian surrogates. Meanwhile, you would like Israel to prevail over Hamas? Edited by georgenorman (19 Apr 2024 1.47pm) No. I would like international diplomacy to prevail, restraining all participants from further military action, Iran to undergo regime change and then to remove all support from Hamas, precipitating its collapse and disintegration, and relief and investment to pour into Gaza, after the return of the hostages. Not all likely in the immediate future, so the first thing is to ensure the diplomacy works. Which I sense it is.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 19 Apr 24 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
So you would like Israel to enlarge its operations to include Iran and other Iranian surrogates. Meanwhile, you would like Israel to prevail over Hamas? Edited by georgenorman (19 Apr 2024 1.47pm) I think the big question is, do we risk Iran getting nuclear capability? It could be that Iran getting the bomb could make the region more stable, as nuclear weapons have globally for the last 79 years. Equally, can we trust a bunch of religious fruitcakes with a nuke, or risk it falling into the hands of even bigger fruitcakes in the future?
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cryrst  The garden of England 19 Apr 24 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
In what way are 'the establishment' after Mahyar Tousi TV, cryst? If you check his channel he got stopped filming the other day with some lame excuse. There is news out there saying he is in the cross hairs. Edited by cryrst (19 Apr 2024 9.53pm)
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| georgenorman 19 Apr 24 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. I would like international diplomacy to prevail, restraining all participants from further military action, Iran to undergo regime change and then to remove all support from Hamas, precipitating its collapse and disintegration, and relief and investment to pour into Gaza, after the return of the hostages. Not all likely in the immediate future, so the first thing is to ensure the diplomacy works. Which I sense it is. There's about as much chance of all that happening as Sheffield Utd staying up.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Apr 24 5.33pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
There's about as much chance of all that happening as Sheffield Utd staying up. I was asked what I would like to happen. Not what I think will. In fact there is more similarity between both than might be perceived by some.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Apr 24 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If you check his channel he got stopped filming the other day with some lame excuse. There is news out there saying he is in the cross hairs. And the grand sum of evidence to support the idea that ‘the establishment are after him’ is just a vague suggestion that he was stopped filming once, with no context. I’d literally never heard of him until you sent that link, as I’d expect is the case for most people - I’d struggle to see why ‘the establishment’ would need to go after a fairly small-time YouTuber posting the same s*** you can read all over social media.
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| cryrst The garden of England 19 Apr 24 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
And the grand sum of evidence to support the idea that ‘the establishment are after him’ is just a vague suggestion that he was stopped filming once, with no context. I’d literally never heard of him until you sent that link, as I’d expect is the case for most people - I’d struggle to see why ‘the establishment’ would need to go after a fairly small-time YouTuber posting the same s*** you can read all over social media. I said watch his channel. That’s what I would recommend. Research his channel. You will see that he has a target. My example with TR would certainly put noses out of joint. Edited by cryrst (19 Apr 2024 5.46pm)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 20 Apr 24 9.08am |
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I think words have been said to Iran and Israel over that stuff. If only the Palestinian issue could be solved as easily.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 20 Apr 24 5.57pm |
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While the media's glare in the Middle East this past week was diverted to Iran's dramatic missile and drone attack on Israel, there has been no let-up in fighting in Gaza. Dozens of Palestinians were killed daily - including many children, according to figures from the Hamas-run health ministry. It now says Israel has killed more than 34,000 people in Gaza since the start of the war.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Apr 24 7.38pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
While the media's glare in the Middle East this past week was diverted to Iran's dramatic missile and drone attack on Israel, there has been no let-up in fighting in Gaza. Dozens of Palestinians were killed daily - including many children, according to figures from the Hamas-run health ministry. It now says Israel has killed more than 34,000 people in Gaza since the start of the war. To say nothing of Sky's nauseating coverage of the Iranian alleged casualties from the IDF. What about the missile base that suddenly blew up/attacked in Iraq?
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