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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 22 Jan 24 12.03pm

Appreciate there are a lot of posts one way or another on here - but found this article from 2012 about why Roy would fail as England manager. Could be written for us now.

The coaching employed by Hodgson is simple and easy to follow but it is for that very reason that players often turn off and fail to pay attention.

When Hodgson sets up a session, he usually concentrates on one aspect of formation, set-piece or set-play. He then walks through the play explaining it minutely and slowing before allowing it to take place at full-speed.

This is a relatively simple coaching tactic used by every single coach in the world worth their salt, but what separates Hodgson from the usual chaff is that he refuses to finish the session until the play is exactly 100 percent right.

In layman’s terms this means an incredible amount of repetition.

Quite often, his teams will spend hours just working on a counter-attack on one side of the pitch; if players on the other side fall asleep or fail to take up their correct position as the play develops, he brings it all back to the start.

This type of coaching system has been enjoyed by Hodgson throughout his rich and varied career, but many journalists and fans, particularly Liverpool’s, will point to the fact that most of his career has been with lesser teams and therefore lesser footballers.

The inclination here is that elite footballers are too good to be treated with such kid gloves and given such specific instructions.

However, the real truth is that footballers at any level crave knowledge, instruction and attention and that they will accept any coaching system once it brings them success.

If it does not; they will down tools like any other footballer.

The problem with Hodgson’s style is that it provides a relatively short-term solution.

By this I mean that giving the same instructions and using the same type of coaching sessions time over time over time eventually erodes the balance between player and coach. In short, players get bored and stop listening.

A simple look at Hodgson’s resume reveals an outstanding manager who has coached all over the world.

But it also reveals a man who rarely stays in one place for too long

 

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Just as well we only have a couple of elite footballers then .From that article it sounds like Roy is the perfect fit

 


And we still need a striker

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Really interesting viewpoint - thanks for posting. Clear to everyone that Roy is a one trick pony who is bereft of innovative thinking, totally risk averse, and a relic of the game from decades ago. Player respect him though - but probably more for his stature and experience than for modern day coaching ideas.

Everyone seems baffled by his substitutions in terms of choice, timing etc - probably because Roy himself is confused on what to do.

It is a bit sad that both Roy and Parish put themselves in such an awkward position this season. Now Parish is faced with the public scrutiny of balancing either a "grind it out" and hope for the best versus "I made yet another poor choice, that is my track record and I'll do it again!"

The other board members must also be wondering why Parish is in charge as he just can't seem to get it right and we end up panicking. On the fiscal side, Parish has done a remarkable job. On the Leadership side, it is a failing grade.

 

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