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bruceisjudas 08 Dec 04 10.46pm
The thing is, I find it laughable when people (not on this site in fairness) Go on about, oh the BNP are such cowards, all mouth then didn't do anything to the DJ, yet if they had kicked the s* out of him, or started calling him a "****" or other such insults, it would be "racist thugs, should be locked up". It seems it's damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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08 Dec 04 10.46pm

The thing is, I find it laughable when people (not on this site in fairness) Go on about, oh the BNP are such cowards, all mouth then didn't do anything to the DJ, yet if they had kicked the s*** out of him, or started calling him a "******" or other such insults, it would be "racist thugs, should be locked up". It seems it's damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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Oliver Bodega Bay 09 Dec 04 11.38am
Quote Petealiator at 08 Dec 2004 7:46am It's also funny how all our leftie HOL friends are quite happy to believe every word of some obscure website, and yet if I was to quote something they didn't like from a national newspaper, it's "do you believe everything you read Pete?" I for one think this is a complete load of bollocks made up by some leftie so all the other lefties can pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves while the country slips down the toilet! Surely to find this story amusing you do not have to be lefty. I sure most Conservative voters would find this amusing as well. In fact, I suspect most people would find this amusing except the BNP supporters and sympathisers who must find it embarrassing. I would find it amusing if the Anti Fascist League inadvertently invited some neo fascist to perform at one of their functions. Edited by Oliver (09 Dec 2004 11:40am) I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Oliver

Bodega Bay 09 Dec 04 11.38am

Quote Petealiator at 08 Dec 2004 7:46am

It's also funny how all our leftie HOL friends are quite happy to believe every word of some obscure website, and yet if I was to quote something they didn't like from a national newspaper, it's "do you believe everything you read Pete?"

I for one think this is a complete load of bollocks made up by some leftie so all the other lefties can pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves while the country slips down the toilet!

Surely to find this story amusing you do not have to be lefty.

I sure most Conservative voters would find this amusing as well. In fact, I suspect most people would find this amusing except the BNP supporters and sympathisers who must find it embarrassing.

I would find it amusing if the Anti Fascist League inadvertently invited some neo fascist to perform at one of their functions.

Edited by Oliver (09 Dec 2004 11:40am)

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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Petealiator 1066 Country! 09 Dec 04 3.46pm
The BNP have made themselves a laughing stock before and they will again, and yes, It’s very amusing… …if it's true! My point was though that many people on here have used the term "don't believe everything you read in the media" and yet when a story arises - through that very same media - that they like, they're only too happy to swallow it's validity without question and take it as gospel. It don’t matter a s* who’s been quoted saying what! If it’s true, who told the media? If they were all BNP there, how did it get out? And why would they care? Their manifesto claims colour of skin is no issue. And remember this is a party that has a high-ranking Jewish candidate among it’s ranks. The BNP is nationalist, not national socialist. They’re no more sinister that Scottish nationalists and certainly a damn site less violent than their Irish counterparts! The NF they aint! There’s more extreme right-wingers in the bloody Tory party than this lot! Hell, truth be known, there’s more in Tony-boy’s so-called New Labour! Am I a BNP sympathiser? Yes I f*ing am, sort of, but who’s fault is that? I've certainly never voted for them, I don’t even agree with the majority of their policies, but the way things are going, Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct fascists, what’s next? Book-burning? Witch-hunts? It’s only a matter of time before I do vote for a party that professes to stand for the indigenous people of Britain – no matter what their skin-colour! I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders! I wouldn’t want them in power, don’t get me wrong, but I do sympathise with people who feel forced into voting for a party such as that because mainstream politicians sell them further and further down the river and I support the need for a party like this to exist if only as a pressure valve for British people to use as a stick against whatever the current government of the day may be. And before you all start slavering at the mouth, tens of thousands of normal British people have voted for this party out of desperation, they can’t all be evil nazi racists can they? My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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1066 Country! 09 Dec 04 3.46pm

The BNP have made themselves a laughing stock before and they will again, and yes, It’s very amusing…

…if it's true! My point was though that many people on here have used the term "don't believe everything you read in the media" and yet when a story arises - through that very same media - that they like, they're only too happy to swallow it's validity without question and take it as gospel. It don’t matter a s*** who’s been quoted saying what! If it’s true, who told the media? If they were all BNP there, how did it get out? And why would they care? Their manifesto claims colour of skin is no issue. And remember this is a party that has a high-ranking Jewish candidate among it’s ranks. The BNP is nationalist, not national socialist. They’re no more sinister that Scottish nationalists and certainly a damn site less violent than their Irish counterparts! The NF they aint! There’s more extreme right-wingers in the bloody Tory party than this lot! Hell, truth be known, there’s more in Tony-boy’s so-called New Labour!

Am I a BNP sympathiser? Yes I f***ing am, sort of, but who’s fault is that? I've certainly never voted for them, I don’t even agree with the majority of their policies, but the way things are going, Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct fascists, what’s next? Book-burning? Witch-hunts? It’s only a matter of time before I do vote for a party that professes to stand for the indigenous people of Britain – no matter what their skin-colour! I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders! I wouldn’t want them in power, don’t get me wrong, but I do sympathise with people who feel forced into voting for a party such as that because mainstream politicians sell them further and further down the river and I support the need for a party like this to exist if only as a pressure valve for British people to use as a stick against whatever the current government of the day may be. And before you all start slavering at the mouth, tens of thousands of normal British people have voted for this party out of desperation, they can’t all be evil nazi racists can they?

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Oliver Bodega Bay 09 Dec 04 4.04pm
Petealiator are you suggesting this story is made up. I think most of he newspapers lean more to the right than the left. Hence, we are always reading alarmist stories about illegal immigrants and how Europe will take power away from Westminster to Brussels. I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Oliver

Bodega Bay 09 Dec 04 4.04pm

Petealiator are you suggesting this story is made up.

I think most of he newspapers lean more to the right than the left. Hence, we are always reading alarmist stories about illegal immigrants and how Europe will take power away from Westminster to Brussels.

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Petealiator 1066 Country! 09 Dec 04 6.23pm
Quote Oliver at 09 Dec 2004 4:04pm Petealiator are you suggesting this story is made up.. I'm saying it's in the media and everyone will believe what they want to believe, truth has very little to do with it. Quote Oliver at 09 Dec 2004 4:04pm I think most of he newspapers lean more to the right than the left. Hence, we are always reading alarmist stories about illegal immigrants and how Europe will take power away from Westminster to Brussels. Those alarmist stories of yours are plain fact mate! News has to be alarmist, headlines are meant to shout their message from the rooftops! Would you feel happier if there was a media blanket on such truths? Would you prefer the truth of what's happening around us was suppressed for political ends? Shall we all just pretend everything is fine and dandy in the garden? Shall we group hug now? My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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1066 Country! 09 Dec 04 6.23pm

Quote Oliver at 09 Dec 2004 4:04pm

Petealiator are you suggesting this story is made up..

I'm saying it's in the media and everyone will believe what they want to believe, truth has very little to do with it.

Quote Oliver at 09 Dec 2004 4:04pm

Those alarmist stories of yours are plain fact mate! News has to be alarmist, headlines are meant to shout their message from the rooftops! Would you feel happier if there was a media blanket on such truths? Would you prefer the truth of what's happening around us was suppressed for political ends? Shall we all just pretend everything is fine and dandy in the garden? Shall we group hug now?

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eryr Caerphillydelphia 10 Dec 04 9.07am
Quote Petealiator at 09 Dec 2004 3:46pm The BNP have made themselves a laughing stock before and they will again, and yes, It’s very amusing… …if it's true! My point was though that many people on here have used the term "don't believe everything you read in the media" and yet when a story arises - through that very same media - that they like, they're only too happy to swallow it's validity without question and take it as gospel. It don’t matter a s* who’s been quoted saying what! If it’s true, who told the media? If they were all BNP there, how did it get out? And why would they care? Their manifesto claims colour of skin is no issue. And remember this is a party that has a high-ranking Jewish candidate among it’s ranks. The BNP is nationalist, not national socialist. They’re no more sinister that Scottish nationalists and certainly a damn site less violent than their Irish counterparts! The NF they aint! There’s more extreme right-wingers in the bloody Tory party than this lot! Hell, truth be known, there’s more in Tony-boy’s so-called New Labour! Am I a BNP sympathiser? Yes I fing am, sort of, but who’s fault is that? I've certainly never voted for them, I don’t even agree with the majority of their policies, but the way things are going, Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct fascists, what’s next? Book-burning? Witch-hunts? It’s only a matter of time before I do vote for a party that professes to stand for the indigenous people of Britain* – no matter what their skin-colour! I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders! I wouldn’t want them in power, don’t get me wrong, but I do sympathise with people who feel forced into voting for a party such as that because mainstream politicians sell them further and further down the river and I support the need for a party like this to exist if only as a pressure valve for British people to use as a stick against whatever the current government of the day may be. And before you all start slavering at the mouth, tens of thousands of normal British people have voted for this party out of desperation, they can’t all be evil nazi racists can they? Seeing as the Saxons are relative newcomers to these islands, do I assume by "indigenous people of Britain" you are referring to the Welsh, and therefore Plaid Cymru might expect your vote in the near future? Dulce et decorum est pro Palace mori "Gee, you and I oughtta get on swell Mister Burton, as we're both Selts". "No, I am a Selt. You are a Sunt." "24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ Stephen Wright [Link]
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eryr

Caerphillydelphia 10 Dec 04 9.07am

Quote Petealiator at 09 Dec 2004 3:46pm

The BNP have made themselves a laughing stock before and they will again, and yes, It’s very amusing…

…if it's true! My point was though that many people on here have used the term "don't believe everything you read in the media" and yet when a story arises - through that very same media - that they like, they're only too happy to swallow it's validity without question and take it as gospel. It don’t matter a s*** who’s been quoted saying what! If it’s true, who told the media? If they were all BNP there, how did it get out? And why would they care? Their manifesto claims colour of skin is no issue. And remember this is a party that has a high-ranking Jewish candidate among it’s ranks. The BNP is nationalist, not national socialist. They’re no more sinister that Scottish nationalists and certainly a damn site less violent than their Irish counterparts! The NF they aint! There’s more extreme right-wingers in the bloody Tory party than this lot! Hell, truth be known, there’s more in Tony-boy’s so-called New Labour!

Am I a BNP sympathiser? Yes I f***ing am, sort of, but who’s fault is that? I've certainly never voted for them, I don’t even agree with the majority of their policies, but the way things are going, Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct fascists, what’s next? Book-burning? Witch-hunts? It’s only a matter of time before I do vote for a party that professes to stand for the indigenous people of Britain – no matter what their skin-colour! I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders! I wouldn’t want them in power, don’t get me wrong, but I do sympathise with people who feel forced into voting for a party such as that because mainstream politicians sell them further and further down the river and I support the need for a party like this to exist if only as a pressure valve for British people to use as a stick against whatever the current government of the day may be. And before you all start slavering at the mouth, tens of thousands of normal British people have voted for this party out of desperation, they can’t all be evil nazi racists can they?

Seeing as the Saxons are relative newcomers to these islands, do I assume by "indigenous people of Britain" you are referring to the Welsh, and therefore Plaid Cymru might expect your vote in the near future?

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Jamie Dinas Powys 10 Dec 04 10.06am
Here here to the above comment. If anyone bothered to have a look at their family tree you'd soon find the chances are you don't come from this country if you go back far enough. I found out that my family descend from Germany. Which explains why I've always had a mullet haircut.
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Jamie

Dinas Powys 10 Dec 04 10.06am

Here here to the above comment.

If anyone bothered to have a look at their family tree you'd soon find the chances are you don't come from this country if you go back far enough.

I found out that my family descend from Germany. Which explains why I've always had a mullet haircut.

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no.16 West Croydon 10 Dec 04 2.40pm
Quote Seeing as the Saxons are relative newcomers to these islands, do I assume by "indigenous people of Britain" you are referring to the Welsh, and therefore Plaid Cymru might expect your vote in the near future? I actually laughed quite hard haha...top bombing my welsh friend.
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West Croydon 10 Dec 04 2.40pm

Quote Seeing as the Saxons are relative newcomers to these islands, do I assume by "indigenous people of Britain" you are referring to the Welsh, and therefore Plaid Cymru might expect your vote in the near future?

I actually laughed quite hard haha...top bombing my welsh friend.

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dave_mc_89 Walkin like a cyclone 10 Dec 04 6.33pm
Quote Petealiator at 09 Dec 2004 3:46pm Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct i agree this is annoying, but is that a reason to vote in faschists? Quote I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders! anti british terrorists do not flood across our borders. thats a ridiculous statement. an incredibly small amount of immigrants are terrorists, most are refugees escaping war or famine in their own countries. im sure they'd rather not be here too, but they'd rather be here than dead. ok, we shouldn't change our culture or traditions for them, but we should make them feel welcome. Burn down the disco, hang the blessed DJ
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Walkin like a cyclone 10 Dec 04 6.33pm

Quote Petealiator at 09 Dec 2004 3:46pm

Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct

i agree this is annoying, but is that a reason to vote in faschists?

Quote I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders!

anti british terrorists do not flood across our borders. thats a ridiculous statement. an incredibly small amount of immigrants are terrorists, most are refugees escaping war or famine in their own countries. im sure they'd rather not be here too, but they'd rather be here than dead. ok, we shouldn't change our culture or traditions for them, but we should make them feel welcome.

Burn down the disco, hang the blessed DJ

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Dec 04 11.46pm
Quote dave_mc_89 at 10 Dec 2004 6:33pm Quote Petealiator at 09 Dec 2004 3:46pm Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct i agree this is annoying, but is that a reason to vote in faschists? Quote I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders! anti british terrorists do not flood across our borders. thats a ridiculous statement. an incredibly small amount of immigrants are terrorists, most are refugees escaping war or famine in their own countries. im sure they'd rather not be here too, but they'd rather be here than dead. ok, we shouldn't change our culture or traditions for them, but we should make them feel welcome. Yeah, right. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 10 Dec 04 11.46pm

Quote dave_mc_89 at 10 Dec 2004 6:33pm

Quote Petealiator at 09 Dec 2004 3:46pm

Christmas banned everywhere so as not to upset the Muslim – soon to be majority - population, jokes banned, freedom of speech snuffed out by politically correct

i agree this is annoying, but is that a reason to vote in faschists?

Quote I’ll vote for any party who promises to stop anti-British terrorists flooding across our borders!

anti british terrorists do not flood across our borders. thats a ridiculous statement. an incredibly small amount of immigrants are terrorists, most are refugees escaping war or famine in their own countries. im sure they'd rather not be here too, but they'd rather be here than dead. ok, we shouldn't change our culture or traditions for them, but we should make them feel welcome.

Yeah, right.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Blue'n'red Field of Chels (Orpington) 10 Dec 04 11.55pm
I have to admit I agree with a lot of what Petealiator said ... for example ... if you saw a Scotsman walking down the street in his kilt, sporran, socks and full regallia - you'd laugh ... but if we see Muslim women walking down the street in their Bukra's ... we have to respect and welcome them. In Rome do what the Roman's do ... blend in!! Granted I know a lot of muslims do that but those that insist on wearing their clothes, building their mosques, having their own schooling really get my goat! Off on a tangent slightly ... but it's similar ... all those blacks who go on about how Jamacia/Nigeria/other country is SO wonderful ... one question ... if it is that wonderful ... why are you here? Edited by Blue'n'red (10 Dec 2004 11:57pm) They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?
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Field of Chels (Orpington) 10 Dec 04 11.55pm

I have to admit I agree with a lot of what Petealiator said ... for example ... if you saw a Scotsman walking down the street in his kilt, sporran, socks and full regallia - you'd laugh ... but if we see Muslim women walking down the street in their Bukra's ... we have to respect and welcome them.
In Rome do what the Roman's do ... blend in!! Granted I know a lot of muslims do that but those that insist on wearing their clothes, building their mosques, having their own schooling really get my goat!

Off on a tangent slightly ... but it's similar ... all those blacks who go on about how Jamacia/Nigeria/other country is SO wonderful ... one question ... if it is that wonderful ... why are you here?

Edited by Blue'n'red (10 Dec 2004 11:57pm)

They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?

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Retardaliator 13 Dec 04 8.38am
I have to say I'm disappointed that a thread that addressed what I considered a valid and serious issue appears to have been deleted over the weekend. This is particularly ironic since I was challenging what I considered to be racist, intolerant and bigoted behaviour, but was frequently abused by the right-wingers on here for impinging upon the alleged perpetrator's right to freedom of speech. It is therefore with disappointment, if not surprise, that I log in today to see that (as has been shown here before) the freedom of speech issue only ever seems to be applied to one side of any argument. Where is MY right to freedom of speech? Apparently non-existent, as it seems to be for anyone who expresses views of tolerance or that differ from the normally accepted (right wing tabloid) point of view. Shame on you HOL. Not even a PM to explain why I've been censored. One final point, for Petealiator. I re-read a great number of your posts over the weekend and I have to say I still stand by my assessment of you. However if I have got you wrong - and StefJolly certainly thinks so, and he's a man I respect - then I genuinely and sincerely apologise, and openly and publicly take back any and all offensive remarks. I know that you were well p*ssed off with the fact that I challenged you and your views yet again, and I'd have liked to have seen your reply (assuming it wasn't just threats of violence). Now you are also denied a forum to defend yourself and your name, and that too is a shame.
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13 Dec 04 8.38am

I have to say I'm disappointed that a thread that addressed what I considered a valid and serious issue appears to have been deleted over the weekend.

This is particularly ironic since I was challenging what I considered to be racist, intolerant and bigoted behaviour, but was frequently abused by the right-wingers on here for impinging upon the alleged perpetrator's right to freedom of speech.

It is therefore with disappointment, if not surprise, that I log in today to see that (as has been shown here before) the freedom of speech issue only ever seems to be applied to one side of any argument.

Where is MY right to freedom of speech? Apparently non-existent, as it seems to be for anyone who expresses views of tolerance or that differ from the normally accepted (right wing tabloid) point of view.

Shame on you HOL. Not even a PM to explain why I've been censored.

One final point, for Petealiator. I re-read a great number of your posts over the weekend and I have to say I still stand by my assessment of you. However if I have got you wrong - and StefJolly certainly thinks so, and he's a man I respect - then I genuinely and sincerely apologise, and openly and publicly take back any and all offensive remarks. I know that you were well p*ssed off with the fact that I challenged you and your views yet again, and I'd have liked to have seen your reply (assuming it wasn't just threats of violence). Now you are also denied a forum to defend yourself and your name, and that too is a shame.

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