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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 04 Oct 23 12.27pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by SnapperKain

You know, if someone came to the club with a billion in the bank and said "Parish, get out and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way" and that person had the club's best interests at heart, I'd be the first one there waving Parish off.

Thing is that I don't think Parish is the problem. The yanks aren't up for owning a club outright, they're purely in it for the money and the thought of being outright owners I've no doubt repulses them.

So that leaves Textor and the bottom line is that I just don't trust him. A really quick Google search doesn't shine him in the best light with his approach to multi-club ownership, the way he treats those at the club, and the way he runs the club. For example:

Lyon - Currently under sanctions from the French Football Federation and having to sell up their better players on the cheap due to the way the club's been run financially.
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Botafogo - Textor receiving death threats and fan protests after selling off one of their best players to, incidentally, Lyon.
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Molenbeek - Sacks entire management team five days before the season starts and it emerges that he put pressure on the coaches to play certain players or he'd start breaking contracts.
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And this article from the FT.com, that explains that Textor's business model is to get young players and then sell them off for profit, thereby generating more money for the investors, not necessarily the club (if it's in the FT, then it's not aimed at the likes of us is it?).
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So do you feel happy with this person having a controlling interest in the team? I don't think it would be a leap of imagination to see him selling off Palace players to make money to keep Lyon afloat and then suddenly our fortunes are intertwined with teams in other leagues, in other countries, how they are doing on the pitch, and more importantly, financially.

If Parish has spotted this (and I'm not a canny businessman nor a millionaire and I can spot it) then this is probably why he's being a pain in the backside to Textor and not letting him have his own way. Can't see Textor working to keep Olise, Eze, Doucouré, or Guéhi in the last transfer window with his mindset, let alone offering Wilf a lucrative deal to stay.

So whilst you might think people are sucking Parish's c*** on here, perhaps it's better than the devil's tit...

Great post. No smoke without fire and all

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 04 Oct 23 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by SnapperKain

That's a fair point Eaglecoops and if we have someone lined up and in budget, then I'd like to know why we didn't land that player. It is odd as we got Lerma in before I think the transfer window had opened, Franca early August, with the likes of Henderson and Holding joining just before the window shut, so what happened with Ekitike? Be interesting to see if we go for him in January. With Hall, we had the loan deal lined up and pretty much a done deal until Newcastle showed interest. Being that Hall has been a Newcastle supporter since childhood, I'm not surprised he chose them over us really.

I guess we are either unlucky that these deals fall apart, or we don’t fully understand what the barriers to the transfer happening are and get complacent whilst we are negotiating, or we leave it so late that any issue means there is no time for a plan B. Of course we may not have a plan B at all and are just hoping that plan A works.

Who knows, as we aren’t pulling the strings. All I do know is this is not the first time this has happened.

Ekitike is supposedly available in January however we don’t like doing business then but may be forced into it this season.

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag 04 Oct 23 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by SnapperKain

I'd challenge you to say that if you talked to me after 6 pints

Lightweight I'd need about 10.

 

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View Oddball2021's Profile Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 04 Oct 23 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

Originally posted by EagleAlan78
You 100% correct. People keep on supporting Parish but he is laughing at them. Parish is not as clever as he thinks he is. But he’s got money, so these people keep deferring to him. Look at Parish, he won’t even buy himself enough food to eat he’s so tight! He’s not as financially astute as he thinks and he’s made this very promising squad a joke.


Parish would still want to control everything if a billionaire came along there’s no stopping him he can’t help himself. Ok yes textor has got bad press from sources that are you don’t know 100% are accurate. Why let him in the club in the first place if he was dodgy sums up parish decision making. His been lucky with managers that they have wanted to come. Half of them didn’t want to stay under him. Also doesn’t excuse the fact we have threadbare squads every season. We have a whole window to do business and yet again we fail managers how your not embarrassed is astonishing

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Edited by EagleAlan78 (03 Oct 2023 8.34pm)

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Oct 23 7.32am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Ekitike is supposedly available in January however we don’t like doing business then but may be forced into it this season.

According to the usually unreliable clickbait there are supposedly a number of other clubs interested in him including our old nemesis West Ham

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Oct 23 7.39am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

According to the usually unreliable clickbait there are supposedly a number of other clubs interested in him including our old nemesis West Ham

Yes, I saw that. I doubt he will end up with us, but stranger things have happened.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 05 Oct 23 7.58am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

In all honesty we really don't need another mediocre Arsenal reject.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Oct 23 8.47am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by SnapperKain


You know, if someone came to the club with a billion in the bank and said "Parish, get out and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way" and that person had the club's best interests at heart, I'd be the first one there waving Parish off.

Thing is that I don't think Parish is the problem. The yanks aren't up for owning a club outright, they're purely in it for the money and the thought of being outright owners I've no doubt repulses them.

So that leaves Textor and the bottom line is that I just don't trust him. A really quick Google search doesn't shine him in the best light with his approach to multi-club ownership, the way he treats those at the club, and the way he runs the club. For example:

Lyon - Currently under sanctions from the French Football Federation and having to sell up their better players on the cheap due to the way the club's been run financially.
[Link]

[Link]

Botafogo - Textor receiving death threats and fan protests after selling off one of their best players to, incidentally, Lyon.
[Link]

Molenbeek - Sacks entire management team five days before the season starts and it emerges that he put pressure on the coaches to play certain players or he'd start breaking contracts.
[Link]

And this article from the FT.com, that explains that Textor's business model is to get young players and then sell them off for profit, thereby generating more money for the investors, not necessarily the club (if it's in the FT, then it's not aimed at the likes of us is it?).
[Link]

So do you feel happy with this person having a controlling interest in the team? I don't think it would be a leap of imagination to see him selling off Palace players to make money to keep Lyon afloat and then suddenly our fortunes are intertwined with teams in other leagues, in other countries, how they are doing on the pitch, and more importantly, financially.

If Parish has spotted this (and I'm not a canny businessman nor a millionaire and I can spot it) then this is probably why he's being a pain in the backside to Textor and not letting him have his own way. Can't see Textor working to keep Olise, Eze, Doucouré, or Guéhi in the last transfer window with his mindset, let alone offering Wilf a lucrative deal to stay.

So whilst you might think people are sucking Parish's c*** on here, perhaps it's better than the devil's tit...

Very strange goings on at Botafogo. TBF to Textor since the above article was written they are leading the league y 7 points and fans are loving it. However just seen that their manager of 3 months Bruno Lage ( ex Wolves) has just been sacke after 3 losses and 1 draw in the last 4 games.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 05 Oct 23 9.58am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I guess we are either unlucky that these deals fall apart, or we don’t fully understand what the barriers to the transfer happening are and get complacent whilst we are negotiating, or we leave it so late that any issue means there is no time for a plan B. Of course we may not have a plan B at all and are just hoping that plan A works.

Who knows, as we aren’t pulling the strings. All I do know is this is not the first time this has happened.

Ekitike is supposedly available in January however we don’t like doing business then but may be forced into it this season.

My guess is its a mixture of all of them.

The thing that's frustrating is that there are some deals that you can afford to leave late/play the game e.g Holding. Good signing for that money, but is going to have slim to little impact on our season.

But given our squad there has to be priority signings, that we cant afford to leave until the last day. In this case you need to play it safer or have a bunch of plan Bs ready to go.

It feels like the word out of the club is 'ahh its frustrating, they fell apart on the last day we just couldn't get that one done'. Which I'm sure is true, but not really good enough.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Oct 23 11.14am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

My guess is its a mixture of all of them.

The thing that's frustrating is that there are some deals that you can afford to leave late/play the game e.g Holding. Good signing for that money, but is going to have slim to little impact on our season.

But given our squad there has to be priority signings, that we cant afford to leave until the last day. In this case you need to play it safer or have a bunch of plan Bs ready to go.

It feels like the word out of the club is 'ahh its frustrating, they fell apart on the last day we just couldn't get that one done'. Which I'm sure is true, but not really good enough.

The problem is we here that reason every year

 

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 05 Oct 23 11.16am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

A year or two in the championship would do some of our fans the world of good.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Oct 23 11.24am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

A year or two in the championship would do some of our fans the world of good.

Surely a year or two in the Maudsley would be more fitting?

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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