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It is wrong to boo our own manager.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jan 24 9.09am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

In general terms not specific to our club, supporters are entitled to express their displeasure providing any dissent is not inflammatory,personal, racist or contains the coarsening of public discourse.

Such outpourings might not be justified but often reflects the frustration not only of the game in question but of previous matches and of the 'Wider picture' as seen by those whose animus often includes hot-boil bile.

In the final analysis, nobody is above criticism but whether it is warranted is an entirely different matter.

Edited by Willo (19 Jan 2024 9.17am)

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 19 Jan 24 10.08am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In general terms not specific to our club, supporters are entitled to express their displeasure providing any dissent is not inflammatory,personal, racist or contains the coarsening of public discourse.

Such outpourings might not be justified but often reflects the frustration not only of the game in question but of previous matches and of the 'Wider picture' as seen by those whose animus often includes hot-boil bile.

In the final analysis, nobody is above criticism but whether it is warranted is an entirely different matter.

Edited by Willo (19 Jan 2024 9.17am)

Of course it was personal,directly targeted at our manager!

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 19 Jan 24 10.12am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

The answer to the OP is YES

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 19 Jan 24 10.21am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Everyone is entitled to express their personal discontent but vocal outpourings in herds can lead to some unnecessarily unpleasant situations.

Roy is working with what and whom he has available and our ambition has financial constraints imposed by the board. If we don't like it we are always free to walk, however, it's clearly a long and very frustrating haul for our supporters ... nothing new there!

Edited by Henry of Peckham (19 Jan 2024 10.34am)

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Jan 24 10.24am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by beak

Of course it was personal,directly targeted at our manager!

It’s strange that no one complains when the exact same words are shouted at a ref or linesman. It’s almost as if personal attacks are only important when it’s directed at someone you are backing.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 19 Jan 24 11.00am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by beak

Of course it was personal,directly targeted at our manager!


Personal criticism is part and parcel of taking a job in the public arena. Let's face it, referees get personal insults week-in, week-out. They're always the baddies (which is why they are dressed in black, of course .

 

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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 19 Jan 24 11.05am Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

I think the question will answer itself if we fail to beat the worst team in the division at Selhurst on Tuesday week.

The genius that is Roy Hodgson has masterfully engineered the weekend off for the boys, by not trying to score in 2 cup games vs Everton. They should be refreshed and ready to try to score a goal, which is very difficult to do in the Premier league. Particularly so with Hodgson's approach to the game.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 19 Jan 24 11.13am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

It might wake the boring Roy Hodgson out of his comfort zone and make him understand that the same dull routines week in week out don't cut it. Nothing easier than to put everyone behind the ball. Try coaching attacking play Roy, with some novel ideas to get behind the opposition and offer fans of the game a little excitement. Problem is you can't change the habits of a lifetime, that why you've been booed.

 

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View Charles's Profile Charles Flag Forest Hill 19 Jan 24 11.53am Send a Private Message to Charles Add Charles as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think Roy is blameless, he is doing the same as he always has, defensive tactics, experienced players, no change, i wouldn't have started Eze, Andersen, Guehi, Lerma or Mitchell, But as for the board a complete and utter shambles 75% of the voting shareholders don't give a s**t and the other one is businessly impotent.

To be fair it's not obvious who else he could have started; the supply of promising youngsters was pretty much dried up by the PL International Cup game against Feyenoord earlier in the day. It was probably frustrating for that squad not to have Franca or Ozoh available for a competition where as last year's losing finalists, we probably have a better chance. Since a 1-1 draw saw us through to the quarter finals, the right call was probably made.

Edited by Charles (19 Jan 2024 12.07pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Jan 24 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Have we forgotten how Charlton got bored with mid table and slit their own throats?

However dull Roy ball might be, it cannot compare to watching us playing in the league below under Peter Taylor or Trevor Francis.

The quality of football we are watching now is 10 times better than the crap of that era. We are also playing sides who are often made up of top class internationals and which cost multi millions.

Sure, I'd like to see more progression, but an FA Cup game is insignificant in the grand scheme. This club is attempting to better itself under Steve Parish and unless the League scraps fair play, all the Oil money in the world cannot improve our squad in the short term.
Show me someone who can sweep aside planning issues and build a new 60k stadium and increase our merchandise revenue x 20, and I will be interested.
Meanwhile, Roy is doing what his experience tells him to keep us up once again.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jan 2024 4.06pm)

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 19 Jan 24 4.23pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Charles

To be fair it's not obvious who else he could have started; the supply of promising youngsters was pretty much dried up by the PL International Cup game against Feyenoord earlier in the day. It was probably frustrating for that squad not to have Franca or Ozoh available for a competition where as last year's losing finalists, we probably have a better chance. Since a 1-1 draw saw us through to the quarter finals, the right call was probably made.

Edited by Charles (19 Jan 2024 12.07pm)

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 19 Jan 24 4.28pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

Yep , they need to give their heads a wobble .Most have been moaning that Roy doesn't make subs and when he does he gets booed . Bloke can't win ,well we know that but booing Roy ?

He's Palace royalty

I agree he cant win. When Olise was left on till almost the end the other week (because he needed minutes) they were moaning Roy should have taken him off earliert so that Franca could come on. Even though when Olise came off Franca was already on and doing nothing!
Now Roy (mindful that Olise is out for Saturday and Eze is probably our only other creative influence) takes Eze off and the same Roy haters are moaning that he has taken him off! For doing the exact thing they were accusing him of NOT doing in the Brentford game.
Some idiot rang into Talksport the other day saying 'we're not going to beat Arsenal on Saturday, no chance so why save him for that game?' In the next breath he's moaning we might get relegated. So wouldn't it be more sensible to sacrifice the cup game and put your best possible available team out in the game where there are points at stake?
It might escape peoples notice but despite being favourites Arsenal are by no means Man City (who we got a draw with) and have plenty of weaknesses. For me, it makes total sense to put the Premiership game as a priority

 

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