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Newcastle is owned by PIF
Sela shirt sponsor is owned by PIF
Stadium Naming rights will no doubt follow sometime soon.


Originally posted by est1905

Premiership rules strictly now prohibit owners/investors/directors of a club having any connection whatsoever to income. IE: they are not allowed to buy naming rights for one of their companies and they are not allowed to use one of their companies to sponsor the club at a way inflated figure just to get the club's turnover/income up. This was pushed hard by Daniel Levy when Newcastle's takeover was completed (for obvious reasons). The thing that is unfair on everyone else is deals that are already in place at clubs such as Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, United are allowed to not only stay in place but are also allowed to be renewed!

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Oct 23 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I've not generally been a critic of SP but looked at what we had at the end of last season once Roy had straightened things out and thought that with additions in the full back areas and up front we could have a very good season.

As it turns out I think that the Board have looked at the three teams that have been promoted and a couple of others they perceive to be strugglers and closed the wallet.

Ultimately I think we'll be the losers as I think, in the end, the better players will get the hump with the lack of ambition and any prospect of European football.

SP and the Board have done well by us but I think that they have struck a bit lucky with Roy and found their goose that lays the golden egg.

I'd include the word 'eventually' in there.

May be slightly delusional and optimistic from me but I am open to believe the management situation is reflected in the window activity and may also correlate with the stadium too.

I get the impression certainly Parish at least is playing a longer game here. Therefore there may be numerous windows and seasons pass by where not much happens, and seemingly reflects a lack of ambition or intent, however if an improved stadium were to come to fruition, and a new manager will certainly have to be sounded out at this season's end, a year sitting back on near guaranteed survival may see the likes of Henderson and Franca arriving as promising players with ROI, alongside perhaps a free transfer for an established player in the midfield, to tide us over for the meantime.

My hope is that the arrival of a new manager will have to be accompanied with a promise and delivery of sincere investment in playing staff. Again, may well be very wishful thinking, but I imagine us finishing this season unexcitingly in 8-15th place, bringing in a new manager and a few new players to bolster what we have now. We may see a few exits too.

This season was all set to be placeholder one for us and is looking to be so, with any over-achievement a huge bonus. Hopefully the 2024-25 season will see a lot more and improved transfer activity to enthuse the club, us as fans, and the players too.

A bottomless pit, Saudi, Emirate style takeover with nothing but the best intentions for the club at heart is a real pipe dream only Citeh and now possibly Newcastle will experience, hasn't even worked for PSG. Until then, we're almost certainly lucky to have Parish and any b!tching about that situation is surely the most removed from reality, especially given our past. It's not perfect by any means, and frustrating at times, but could be considerably worse. There are plenty of examples.

Edited by Nicholas91 (09 Oct 2023 7.40pm)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Originally posted by Nicholas91

I'd include the word 'eventually' in there.

May be slightly delusional and optimistic from me but I am open to believe the management situation is reflected in the window activity and may also correlate with the stadium too.

I get the impression certainly Parish at least is playing a longer game here. Therefore there may be numerous windows and seasons pass by where not much happens, and seemingly reflects a lack of ambition or intent, however if an improved stadium were to come to fruition, and a new manager will certainly have to be sounded out at this season's end, a year sitting back on near guaranteed survival may see the likes of Henderson and Franca arriving as promising players with ROI, alongside perhaps a free transfer for an established player in the midfield, to tide us over for the meantime.

My hope is that the arrival of a new manager will have to be accompanied with a promise and delivery of sincere investment in playing staff. Again, may well be very wishful thinking, but I imagine us finishing this season unexcitingly in 8-15th place, bringing in a new manager and a few new players to bolster what we have now. We may see a few exits too.

This season was all set to be placeholder one for us and is looking to be so, with any over-achievement a huge bonus. Hopefully the 2024-25 season will see a lot more and improved transfer activity to enthuse the club, us as fans, and the players too.

A bottomless pit, Saudi, Emirate style takeover with nothing but the best intentions for the club at heart is a real pipe dream only Citeh and now possibly Newcastle will experience, hasn't even worked for PSG. Until then, we're almost certainly lucky to have Parish and any b!tching about that situation is surely the most removed from reality, especially given our past. It's not perfect by any means, and frustrating at times, but could be considerably worse. There are plenty of examples.

Edited by Nicholas91 (09 Oct 2023 7.40pm)

Agreed.
In epl terms we are a small club.
Investment may get us 11th place.

SERIOUS investments gets us to 10th. We get another couple of million in prize money but at the expense of debt/future transfer payment commitments. A sad state of affairs but the life of a makeweight epl team.

 

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I have been posting for years that the measure of success of a reasonable run in the prem is how the club looks at the end of it. The stadium is desperately in need of upgrading, achieve that, along with the academy and a healthy financial position and I would say that Parish’s tenure was a total success. European football, silverware would be great but not at the expense of the longer term success of the club.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Even so, there was some suggestion that Textor had funded the purchases of Andersen, Geuhi, Dacoure etc. I presume that was in the form of a loan to CPFC, as a gift would not be allowed.

I believe that the funds that Textor injected came in the way of an increase in the company's share capital which is one way around FFP

 

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as a 50+ years Palace fan had 3 spells of us going close to going under chasing a dream , and the gods smiled at us and some how we got saved ,
so if you dont understand financial ramification of the dream failing , you could never run a business that effects thousands of people , so stop Parish bashing unless you have the money to buy the club

Edited by mtp1958 (10 Oct 2023 8.04am)

 

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This is a real 'laugh, cry or get angry?' story!

I laughed, which is probably a bit uncaring, but should give some perspective to our current ownership - [Link]

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Originally posted by Nicholas91

This is a real 'laugh, cry or get angry?' story!

I laughed, which is probably a bit uncaring, but should give some perspective to our current ownership - [Link]
sport/football/67268518

Simon Jordan was saying this morning he doesn’t mean it he’s just trying to prove a point. The Wednesday fans have pi55ed him off by constantly saying they’re the real owners of the club as fans, this fella is just the most recent custodian, even though he’s pumped up 150 million in his time. So this is him saying it’s their turn if they think they’re the real owners.
Several fans have said there’s nothing even been set up to donate if you wanted too

SJ was a little bit sympathetic with him, because from his obvious experience fans demand this and demand that and keep telling owners how to spend their money and how much they should be spending. Obviously this fella has fcuked it up at Wednesday but it does sound like he’s had enough of putting money into the club

 

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Originally posted by monkey

Simon Jordan was saying this morning he doesn’t mean it he’s just trying to prove a point. The Wednesday fans have pi55ed him off by constantly saying they’re the real owners of the club as fans, this fella is just the most recent custodian, even though he’s pumped up 150 million in his time. So this is him saying it’s their turn if they think they’re the real owners.
Several fans have said there’s nothing even been set up to donate if you wanted too

SJ was a little bit sympathetic with him, because from his obvious experience fans demand this and demand that and keep telling owners how to spend their money and how much they should be spending. Obviously this fella has fcuked it up at Wednesday but it does sound like he’s had enough of putting money into the club

Yup, he said last month(bbc) he was fed up of the abuse he & his family were getting, he wouldn't put any more money into the club. Guess he's sticking by his statement.

 


I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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