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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 05 Jan 24 9.40am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I must have taken leave of my senses which is quite normal these days.

Seared in my memory are those days in the lower divisions when we actually emerged victorious at Selhurst Park and supporters left the ground feeling chipper even when all the points were not attained.At present, game upon game, we leave the ground in fits of despair wearing faces like thunderclaps voices growling with hot-boil bile.
Supporters pay hard-earned money to witness performances as dull as dishwater.

I am seriously considering sparing myself the journey to Selhurst Park for the rest of the season.

Edited by Willo (05 Jan 2024 9.16am)

As a supporter of some 50 plus years I expect, by default you would have sat through some turgid games ending in defeat. As the majority of those years, you would have been watching us play at a lower standard of football, so there by default worse than we are now.
Not every game is a dazzling display of excitement, the previous night Brighton v W Ham stunk the place out with tedious boring football, it’s the reality of the game.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 05 Jan 24 9.46am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

I respectfully disagree, I hope and hope so sincerely that no player going in to a tackle intends to hurt or maim a fellow player. However having said that, dangerous play is just that, it matters not that it was a glancing blow what matters is that it had the potential to seriously injure a fellow player and therefore it was reckless dangerous play and the red card was very much the right decision. As for the pundits who think otherwise, then that is a good reason for not involving them in any future VAR as some seem to want and suggest.It was quite interesting to listen to Mr. Dykes after the game when of course he thought it was the wrong decision, on the other hand, had the tackle been on his player, I can just see him on the touchline jumping up and down asking for a red card. No one likes to see red cards in a game but players safety must always be the first priority of the officials, so well done VAR!

Yup agreed

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Jan 24 9.55am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

We are the worst side with the ball in the top flight, I’m certain of it.

We’re probably a top half side out of possession which is why we get some results, but the play we offer up in possession is nothing short of embarrassing.

I know the board see it as safe, but another 6m of this is going to be absolutely excruciating to watch, and I suspect is going to get very toxic as fans’ frustrations understandably build.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Jan 24 9.57am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

As a supporter of some 50 plus years I expect, by default you would have sat through some turgid games ending in defeat. As the majority of those years, you would have been watching us play at a lower standard of football, so there by default worse than we are now.
Not every game is a dazzling display of excitement, the previous night Brighton v W Ham stunk the place out with tedious boring football, it’s the reality of the game.

Standard of football is not the same as entertainment - a match can be of a lower quality but much more entertaining and vice versa.

No one expects every game to be a ‘dazzling display of excitement’ - just a complete straw man argument.

 

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View mtp1958's Profile mtp1958 Flag Grays 05 Jan 24 10.02am Send a Private Message to mtp1958 Add mtp1958 as a friend

not a good match but after 50+ years supporting them seen to many bad games also seen many great games so rough with the smooth ,

weather wasnt helping the game , you could see the the ball stopping or moving more , lots of over hit passes by both teams ,

Franca mmmm was ok in stages but needs abit of weight on him , and yes more game time may help but he is still a kid , Matty put in another good shift , but we must support him quicker he is doing hard work and no one to pass to , spending to much time getting close to the man playing the ball , this doesnt help to open defenses , so no surprise with the draw have seen crap from other matchs not just ours

 

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View mtp1958's Profile mtp1958 Flag Grays 05 Jan 24 10.18am Send a Private Message to mtp1958 Add mtp1958 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I must have taken leave of my senses which is quite normal these days.

Seared in my memory are those days in the lower divisions when we actually emerged victorious at Selhurst Park and supporters left the ground feeling chipper even when all the points were not attained.At present, game upon game, we leave the ground in fits of despair wearing faces like thunderclaps voices growling with hot-boil bile.
Supporters pay hard-earned money to witness performances as dull as dishwater.

I am seriously considering sparing myself the journey to Selhurst Park for the rest of the season.

Edited by Willo (05 Jan 2024 9.16am)

Shame on you Willo i take your season ticket and im moving to shropshire i would still go no matter how we play , ok it would be to get away from the wife thats neither here or there but as pointed out to you that you have watched some shocking matchs and lot of them away games , Carlisle is not nice on a tuesday night by coach and losing 1-0 , so cheer up Willo you know that the good times will come hopeful before we shuffle off this mortal coil

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 24 10.41am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

As a supporter of some 50 plus years I expect, by default you would have sat through some turgid games ending in defeat. As the majority of those years, you would have been watching us play at a lower standard of football, so there by default worse than we are now.
Not every game is a dazzling display of excitement, the previous night Brighton v W Ham stunk the place out with tedious boring football, it’s the reality of the game.

I very much expect I did sit through a plethora of turgid games and perhaps I have been inflicted with "Good old days" syndrome.

I recall the days in the lower divisions when I got soaked to the skin whilst on the Holmesdale Terrace and witnessing games at an empty Selhurst Park.All in the dim and distant past and I was not so ripe in years.As for the present I do not expect dazzling displays of excitement each and every game but our abject home form and displays this and previous seasons has tried my patience.

Game on game we witness bland performances, some could be described as dire, and in all honesty my time could be better spent just following proceedings from the warmth of my abode and not having to endure a 4 hour round-trip.
Maybe if I take leave of my senses and travel up to Selhurst Park I will ensure I do not leave home without a white handkerchief and might be winded to wave it in the hair in total disgust as they do in Spain.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Jan 24 10.49am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I very much expect I did sit through a plethora of turgid games and perhaps I have been inflicted with "Good old days" syndrome.

I recall the days in the lower divisions when I got soaked to the skin whilst on the Holmesdale Terrace and witnessing games at an empty Selhurst Park.All in the dim and distant past and I was not so ripe in years.As for the present I do not expect dazzling displays of excitement each and every game but our abject home form and displays this and previous seasons has tried my patience.

Game on game we witness bland performances, some could be described as dire, and in all honesty my time could be better spent just following proceedings from the warmth of my abode and not having to endure a 4 hour round-trip.
Maybe if I take leave of my senses and travel up to Selhurst Park I will ensure I do not leave home without a white handkerchief and might be winded to wave it in the hair in total disgust as they do in Spain.

Genuinely, nearly all long (suffering) term fans have felt the same at one stage or another. I'm ashamed to admit I've given up on us before. It's not easy being Palace.

 


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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 05 Jan 24 10.51am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Missed Ayew and Olise big time last night. Midfield seems to be our worst for many a year and that might (probably is) be down to luxury players like Eza being part of it. Eza was poor again last night but looked better when Everton were down to 10. Not a compliment, more of he didn’t play well against 11? And of course Doucoure is missing and replacements aren’t up to it. Midfield just doesn’t bond as in past seasons. Defensively Richard’s does a good job but going forward there’s no pace from anyone? Another poor performance last night was Mitchell who at times had acres of space being found from Andersen long balls. However he did nothing with it which is why Everton weren’t so tight on him I guess? Also Schlup didn’t support Mitchell anywhere near as good as Ayew does. Another bad night at the office and I can’t see it improving soon :-(

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Jan 24 11.10am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I think I picked up that Eze and Hughes don't pass to each other. If that's because they don't like each other, I don't know. Doesn't seem ideal.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Jan 24 11.11am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

a Few Thoughts on last nights game...
As people have said on here, a game with 2 teams looking to stay solid and difficult To break down. Thought Everton outplayed us for large parts - their movement and passing in the final 3rd put us to shame. On the few occasions we put a move together, it was let down by a misplaced pass or bad decision. i.e Not doubting Lermas right to shoot, but Franca was in acres of space just to the left of him. an easy pass for a much better chance.

Franca looks promising, he was the only One who showed any inclination to pass forward. sometimes it didn't work but least hes trying. For his first start it was a good one. I would have liked to have seen him in Eze's position. However, his defending/defensive positioning needs work. Often just taking up positions rather than putting pressure on the ball allowing himself To be passed by easily.
Ahamada was dissapointing.
Ozoh is a beast. deserves a lot more gametime.
Eze, when he wasn't man marked was double marked.
Mateta looks so much better than Edouard ever did as a CF. If only he could put the ball in the net occasionally.

And it was never a Red. Studs up, yes, Reckless no. Yellow for me.

Are you 'Roy'?

He's an ATTACKING midfielder, NOT a defender. Do we want all our players to be defenders? Let Franca attack, god knows we need some joy of intent, All Roy seems to do(imo) is suck the flair & skill out of players in his 10 men behind the ball & defend philosophy. No, let him attack, JPM might benefit from it. I do, however, agree with you that would like to see him in Eze's position.

 


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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 05 Jan 24 11.12am Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

I've always admired Roy and what he has achieved for this club, but that was an incredibly turgid game to watch. Scarcely able to string 4 to 5 passes together and so predictable. However, I look at the bench and there is no one I fancied coming on who would change it.

Is some of the fault Roy's. Yes. I still more with SP and the board though. Last 3 windows have not addressed major squad gaps and have just made the situation worse. We have bought players like Franca, Ahamada, Ebiowei and Plange on the grounds that they are young, have potential and we can sell them on for profit. The reality is we also need players for now, and we haven't bought them. Franca looks like he has raw ability, but I have no confidence whether the rest will ever make it as Premier League footballers.

Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And overall our squad is a sow's ear. A sprinkling of 6-7 good players doesn't make a good squad, especially when you factor in injuries.

 

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