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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 20 Apr 24 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No pretence is needed. It is. It cannot be anything else. It is bound by its charter to be accurate and factual. Break its charter and Ofcom would be all over it, egged on by the right.

That those with particular world views or political beliefs find that means it doesn’t reflect their own views isn’t the least surprising.

The reason some people think it isn’t neutral is because they aren’t neutral themselves. Try reading this:-

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Did the BBC cut the interview short?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Apr 24 10.54pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not addressing a story about the left! I am addressing yet another politically biased story about the independence of the BBC.

If and when we see a Labour government and their supporters doing much the same, as I am certain they will, then you can expect the same response from me.

So labour doing it now doesn’t count then because they aren’t hmg.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Apr 24 11.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Did the BBC cut the interview short?

I haven’t heard it. Have you?

I thought it was edited when an error was pointed out.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 20 Apr 24 11.29pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I haven’t heard it. Have you?

I thought it was edited when an error was pointed out.

No. That's not the reason.


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 20 Apr 24 11.31pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The BBC apologised for doing it. There is no interpretation.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Originally posted by cryrst

So labour doing it now doesn’t count then because they aren’t hmg.

What is it that Labour is doing now?

Governments tend to get upset with the BBC. Oppositions less so, because they don’t have to actually do anything. They can join in with criticism and keep the detail about their own plans obscure.

It’s been so long since we have had a Labour government that it’s easy to forget what I think we will see.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

No. That's not the reason.


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It is. That’s exactly what the Telegraph story says happened. It’s just the headline that suggests something else. The report was edited, for “good reasons”. That Labour might have identified them is neither here nor there. Perhaps they had already been recognised internally. We don’t know but it was an editorial decision. Something I suspect happens quite often with many political stories irrespective of which party is involved. That’s partly why editing takes place. To ensure accuracy and avoid mistakes.

It’s a wind up. Which I see is still believed by some.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 21 Apr 24 12.08am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It is. That’s exactly what the Telegraph story says happened. It’s just the headline that suggests something else. The report was edited, for “good reasons”. That Labour might have identified them is neither here nor there. Perhaps they had already been recognised internally. We don’t know but it was an editorial decision. Something I suspect happens quite often with many political stories irrespective of which party is involved. That’s partly why editing takes place. To ensure accuracy and avoid mistakes.

It’s a wind up. Which I see is still believed by some.

Perhaps they hadn't been identified until pressure was applied. But if there were "good reasons" then it must be case closed.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Perhaps they hadn't been identified until pressure was applied. But if there were "good reasons" then it must be case closed.

How could any Party apply pressure? The government of the day can by threatening the BBC over its funding but not the Parties.

They can point things out if, as I suspect, they are always given an advance copy and invited to comment. Better that legal issues are spotted early than litigated later.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

How could any Party apply pressure? The government of the day can by threatening the BBC over its funding but not the Parties.

They can point things out if, as I suspect, they are always given an advance copy and invited to comment. Better that legal issues are spotted early than litigated later.

Unless the party concerned point out that soon they will be the ones deciding the licence fee.
Or those to whom the pressure is applied are amenable to the changes suggested.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No pretence is needed. It is. It cannot be anything else. It is bound by its charter to be accurate and factual. Break its charter and Ofcom would be all over it, egged on by the right.

That those with particular world views or political beliefs find that means it doesn’t reflect their own views isn’t the least surprising.

The reason some people think it isn’t neutral is because they aren’t neutral themselves. Try reading this:-

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As has been said before. The BBC may well have a charter of neutrality, but it is skewed by the bias of its employees.

Your bias makes you see neutral where there is bias. The BBC's idea of neutral might well be different to someone else's.

One simply cannot apply the concept of bias without applying it to ones self and to question what 'neutral' really means.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Apr 24 9.02am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Unless the party concerned point out that soon they will be the ones deciding the licence fee.
Or those to whom the pressure is applied are amenable to the changes suggested.

From all I see the BBC doesn’t respond to pressure. It stands firm, so any observations are likely to be objective and factual rather than threatening. If then they are accepted as valid and acted upon that’s the BBC taking their own decision.

It’s noticeable that the BBC will often say in a report that the person/organisation being discussed has been approached for their reaction. I don’t see anything unusual here at all.

 


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